Should George Chuvalo be inducted into the hall of fame?

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, and I'll add that who says there has to be only one heavy known for having a great chin, why can't both McCall and Chuvalo be known for having a great chin? I don't get it?

    Who set the limit at one?
     
  2. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You gave me several names most of whom lacked one-punch KO power and scored few impressive knockouts. Such as Joe Frazier who sometimes needed literally a hundred clean flush punches to put his man down and pretty much all stoppages I've seen of him were the result of attrition. Bob Baker never scored a single impressive knockout in his career. George Foreman, like I already said, had very very few impressive one-punch displays in his career, a clubbing puncher who almost always needed several clean punches to put his man out, one punch wasn't enough. Quarry can only brag about one stoppage win in his whole carerr, against not very sturdy Shavers. Cleveland Williams who faced Chuvalo was a criple who was no longer a puncher at all, and only a biased person could claim Chuvalo's fight against him means anything. Patterson over Tyson, Lewis, Bruno or Cooper? Give me a break. Especially a washed up version of Patterson.
     
  3. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    ohh in a list of 5 mccalls high on that list too,maybe even david tua as well
     
  4. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chuvalo is no Hall of Famer, by any stretch.
     
  5. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    patterson in 1965 was far from washed up,you should grow up.when chuvalo fought williams chuvalo was 34 years old himself.you shouldn't talk about bias man
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    You can make an argument that he wasn't hall of fame material, but using the words " by any stretch", is somewhat of a stretch in and of itself. He was a top 10 ranked fighter for a longer period than any other challenger, and during one of the most competitive eras in the sport. He was never floored or KO'd in close to 100 fights. He was a continental Canadian champion for a longer period than most national champions. He defeated a rather lengthy list of rated contenders, while giving great fighters a good match in defeat. He was arguably robbed against Ernie Terrell in a world championship fight ( though I can't give him the win, but still ).

    Does this mean he deserves to be a hall of fame candidate? Depends on one's personal viewpoint. If nothing else, he at least comes close even if he doesn't quite make it.
     
  7. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    hes got a hof chin for sure,if that can get you in.i just saw chuvalo last friday in halifax opening up a new gym,he still looks pretty tough at 70 years old too
     
  8. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His record was too padded. He usualy lost when matched with top fighters. A lot of fighters lasted in rankings as long or longer than him. He never won title. I just don't see him as Hall of Fame guy. If you disagree, well, we just see it differently.
     
  9. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Patterson wasn't washed up is very visible from his style, it didn't change at all from his prime years, or did it? His style, just as was the case with Tyson, suits young age best, and 30 years is too old for it.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    None that I can think of. Chavalo would be the low man on the totem pole if he were elected to the hall of fame.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Although I agree with you that McCall faced better punchers ( as a group ) than Chavalo, I think you might need to revise your statement about McCall never being stunned or near out. Check round 9 vs Bruce Seldon, or the end of the Buster Douglas fight and you'll see McCall was close to going down.
     
  12. Sonny's jab

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    I dont know why people here take the hall of fame so seriously.

    Firstly, as I've said before, it's called "the hall of FAME", not "the hall of greatness".

    Secondly, who really cares about the "hall of fame" ? It seems a nice little idea or gimmick, and a reason for old champs and contenders to get together once a year, but it means less to me than ESB forum does, for a start. And here just about anyone can say just about anything and claim anyone as a "great" fighter.

    There have been various versions of boxing's "Hall of Fame" over the years anyway.
    One day I might set up my own and it would be up to ME who's in and who's out. :lol:
    I suggest some of you guys do the same thing. :lol:
     
  13. bigjake

    bigjake Active Member Full Member

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    chuvalo fought better boxers and had many more fights then mccall has,besides oliver has a drug problem.i wonder how many times he was doing drugs while in the ring?that fact alone should remove him on any discussion about best chin he wasn't even playing fair if that was the case.mccall's only the latest not the greatest,as far as best chins go.....