Should Gil Turner be in the HOF?

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone brave enough to say no for a guy that beat:

    Gene Fullmer
    Ike Williams
    Beau Jack
    Bobby Dykes
    Yama Bahama
    Johnny Saxton
    Bernard Docusen
    Charley Fusari
    Del Flanagan
    Virgil Akins
    Pierre Langlois
    Charley Scott
    Vic Cardell
    Don Williams
    Chico Varona
    Joe Micelli
    Ramon Fuentes
    Italo Scortichini

    Seriously, why are guys like Terry Norris automatic inclusions whilst someone like Gil Turner isn't even up for discussion?

    That resume dumps on Norris'.
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are a few voters who purposefully skip the less-deserving, more recent entries to reserve votes for those more serious men from way back who languish because by now even their children are dying off.

    Cocoa Kid's induction gave me hope though. He has routinely been skipped for years and the sudden swell of support he got in the fall means that many who have -routinely been skipping him for years- suddenly changed their minds. It proved to me that when voters have access to information and, critically, that information is passed directly to them, they can do the right thing.

    Yes. Gil Turner should be in the IBHOF, and he should have been candidate already.
     
  3. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes yes yes i love the giardello fight> one of my absolute favorites total action from bell to bell.
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point, though it's quite an indictment on them that they needed that kind of coaxing to begin with when dealing with fighters the calibre of Cocoa Kid.

    Great fight. Never a dull moment with Gil. His fight with Basilio is quite a good slugfest too, very tight contest. Footage quality ain't the best though...
     
  5. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't care much about who is in the IBHOF or not.
    If I cared, I'd set up my own HOF !

    But no doubt Gil Turner was as great as many of the men who are already in.
    I rate him above Thomas Hearns as a welter, personally.
     
  6. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^^^ this

    the level between REAL TOP fighters is truly very little, there are 100's of greats!
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Turner was ace. I care not for the HOF, but Turner is certainly a more worthy inclusion than Norris.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I use cuevas as a benchmark as he actually achieved very little and looks like **** on film (until he lands a ko shot).

    Turner is not far behind the likes of graham and giardello who made the cut above him. There's certainly room in there for him.

    Same for de jesus, it always surprises me he didn't make it.
     
  9. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that Turner should be in the HOF already but do you really rate him higher than Hearns at 147?
     
  10. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should get in, but he is in a long list of fighters that are not in though.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If your key criterion is resume, then that's entirely reasonable.

    TOmmy was a hell of a fighter at welterweight though...
     
  12. kikibalt

    kikibalt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hall of fame's are all about politics/money. That's why I step down as V.P. of the California Boxing Hall of Fame.