Should harder punches count for more?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TJ Max, Nov 24, 2015.


  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Essentially the OP is asking this:

    Should Bernard Hopkins have been judged the winner against Calzaghe?
     
  2. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This isn't amateur boxing. Clean "effective" aka harder/hurtful is a criteria for scoring.
     
  3. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha, thanks, mate.
     
  4. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There, I fixed it for you. Harder/Hurtful is not a part of it. Harder/Hurtful has it's own reward (ie: stun possible knockdown) It "shouldn't effect the scoring for a punch, it does with some judges, but per the rules of scoring, velocity (speed) or force of impact of a punch is not scored.
     
  5. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bad ****ogy man. This is a sport, not war. You don't win by points in war or battle. When you start looking at this as the SPORT that it is you'll understand, yeah harder punches are more telling, more exciting, but they are not always from more risk. If you're gonna say harder punches need to count for more, then you need to just say, if you can't punch hard, get out of boxing. So you might as well say goodbye to fighters like Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep, Paulie Malignaggi, Chris Byrd. All fighters who had sub 50% ko ratios, not the biggest hitters in the sport, but won on skill.
     
  6. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    This is kind of a no-brainer. The scoring system for pro boxing has always been based on this concept. Of course, judges emphasize different things, weigh things in different ways.. .and that's difficult to control for.
     
  7. Lartize

    Lartize Active Member Full Member

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    who would you rather be at the end of the round?
     
  8. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can someone tell me what technology they've been using in able to feel punches from their couch?

    nobody can tell how hard or effective a punch really is.you arent the one throwing or taking it.

    thats why it is clean and effecting punching.
     
  9. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there aare manny things to score on but the point is how they are all put together. you shouldn't have to struggle to see who wins a round.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It wouldn't be fair, the current scoring criteria is designed to be fair, giving everyone an equal opportunity to win. Clean punches score better than harder punches. If power punchers had the advantage that the OP suggests they should, it'd be unfair to guys like Bradley and Algieri (like someone else mentioned). In short, no; harder punches should not count for more, but cleaner punches should. I think power counts more if every other scoring criteria is about equal, use the power as sort of a "tie breaker".
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    To add to that, what if a punch just looks harder because the recipient has a weaker chin than his opponent?
     
  12. itsa

    itsa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, too many variables.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Totally agree; when someone has more power than you it's not fair.

    RJJ's career was all based on unfairness. He had too much speed. Not fair...
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I was referring to SCORING CRITERIA as I clearly stated, try again.
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So was I. Every 2 punches Roy lands should count as 1 for a regular boxer. He was too fast and it was too easy for him to land because he was too fast.

    It's only fair in the interest of scoring purposes.