Should Jermain Taylor be pulled out of the tournament for his own good?

I think it's a bit of an over-reaction. It was a competetive fight, I had Abraham clearly ahead, but it was by no means one sided or with Taylor showing he was out of his league. Also, it's not as if he's been knocked out by some feather fisted no-bodies. Pavlik has a great KO ratio and very heavy hands, same with Carl Froch. Arthur Abraham might be the hardest pound for pound single puncher in the world, if not he's definitely up there, he has several high class knockouts which have left his opponents out for a long time. There was nothing tonight that would suggest to me that Taylor can't be competetive or even win some of his upcoming fights. Abraham just fought a great fight, he really impressed me tonight and lets face it, we all know he has the power to do that to anyone at any time in the fight.

 

The first fight with Hopkins could be a draw or for Taylor in my opinion, a draw was fair. The rematch though was a clear win for Taylor, a clear yet close UD just like the fight with Calzaghe.

He was a good boxer, I think it's a case of getting too much too early and Steward didn't help at all either, if anything he got worse with Steward in my opinion.

 

How do I "clearly" have issue with white skin?, I'm white/light brown myself.

You need to jump out of a damn tower if you agree that JT's weakness in his losses are his opponent's skin color.

"Jermain lost three times because of his opponent's skin color"

Hang yourself with a cordless phone please.

 

I don't think so. Who has he got next? I don't think either of the Americans are in any danger of knocking him out like that, and we have to remember he was very competetive throughout.

 

I don't think the second Taylor fight or the Calzaghe fight were clear. They didn't "beat" Hopkins. I don't award rounds simply for throwing idle punches that don't land just to look busier though. I can understand why people give non-event rounds to the more active guy, but it's not a view I subscribe to, I have no hesitation in calling a 10-10 if there is no difference in the clean, effective work done by the two fighters. Neither Taylor nor Calzaghe beat Hopkins IMO, but I don't have a major issue with anyone who did score those fights that way, it's all about opinions.

Anyway, that's not so important here. I agree with you on JT primarily. It's weird that he did seem to regress under Steward, who did such a good job improving Lewis and Wlad. I think Steward's way is to make his fighters safer and more cautious, but that route must simply not work for everyone.

 

All correct but the fact remains that he was stopped 3 times in his last 5 fights and twice in a row now. And he's facing Kessler next year and Kessler will most likely KO him too. He's good enough to be competitive, but will it be safe for him to continue? That is the question.

 

Look man, if you're trying to tell me his issue is his opponent's skin color and not their styles in a sport where IT'S ALL ABOUT STYLES then you're beyond foolish.

Don't give me that psychology crap, I've had my share of psychiatric classes during the dayd in Uni and that kind of nonsense doesn't relate to this AT ALL. It may relate to murders or stuff similar to that but Taylor's case is OUT THE WINDOW especially when like the Pavlik fight, he was winning early only to fade late.

His issue isn't a psychological problem with white skin, it's clearly the fighting style. If it was that he wasn't going to lose his fight with Pavlik. These three guys that beat him aren't the same but are aggressive fighters in their own ways and that's Taylor's issue. Not some psychological disadvantage about skin color, if you insist then I suggest you seek professional psychological help. That post right there makes Buxzer's post about Mayweather hiring gang members to shoot random people in the street for not ordering tickets and PPV in HIS CAR look like Sherlock Holmes stuff.

 

I'm a JT fan but really... He's done, I expected this outcome. Too vulnerable.

 

Please don't spend time writing another lengthy reply to someone saying Taylor has an issue with white skin, just use one word next time: BULL****.

 

I was rooting for Hopkins in both fights like I was when he fought Calzaghe and I just couldn't score these fights for him. We can disagree all day so let's just leave it there.

Got to agree with that last post, it could also be a case of getting too much too early. Taylor was too humble early if you notice then all of a sudden became arrogant leading up to the Pavlik fight if you remember. Don't know what the hell happened but hopefully he recovers and does good in his life.

 

No.

 

Conclusion: On Taylor's best night, he was a very good fighter. :good

 

Got to admit I'm stupid for posting that much to cockroaches like that. It's like trying to motivate a one legged man to win a running competition.

Trash like that make me feel insulted, disturbed and weird I'm human.

 

he should get rif of ozell that mofo has no clue,this is boxing ain't a ****in barbeque ,never should fired burns they had a great chemistry and cotto has the same problem with that family and loalty bs ,u have to learn fundamentals it's very clear that jt has no chin he gets touched he falls apart like wlad once was then u get ur fundamentals together and that's it cotto needs to learn clinching otherwise pacman will **** him up!!!!

 

If there was a black power puncher with superior stamina and technique during Taylor's run at 160 and 168, he'd have lost to them also. Bernard was only a stern puncher at this point in his career, and he didn't have the volume left to finish Taylor, although he came pretty damned close in their first fight. Wink of course can barely break an egg, and HE even rocked Taylor once or twice.

Like Scar is saying, this is a style issue, not a color issue.