Should Joe Mesi fight again?

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  1. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is now talking about him coming back if the money is right...(typical boxer)
     
  2. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    No.

    There is no reason to risk his health. There is no way that he could beat a Klitscko.

    I would give him even money agaisnt Haye, though. But still, why riks brain damage or death?
     
  3. dbouziane

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    hmmm....tough one. he could probably still sell the hell outta the buffalo area (being the 3rd sprots franchise up there ). health wise, i dunno if the risk/reward is there. he can't beat the klits and anyone w/ a heavy hand no matter how bad can put him in a bad spot if they catch him right.

    i understand his frustration. he was working jirov over before that questionable (legally) punch to the rear head area started his downward spiral. he wasnt close to being the be all end all of the hw division but he was a solid all around fighter (who doesnt get enough credit on here). on top of that, he looked pretty good in his comeback fights. there is a vid on here of his last comeback fight...didnt look half bad.

    but...i personally don't think its worth it. stick to politics baby joe, keep your health.
     
  4. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mesi's return a complex proposition

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons, Contributing Boxing Editor

    Ocala, FL (Sports Network) - If only boxing were as simple as Facebook.
    There, if asked about a tumultuous relationship with the sport that made him a hero in his native Western New York and got him within a fight or two of a try at a heavyweight title, Joe Mesi could simply say "It's complicated" and log off.
    In reality, though, it's not quite so easily explained.
    Now just a few weeks short of his 36th birthday and two years removed from his last for-pay appearance in a ring, Mesi is committedly non-committal on whether he'll ever renew his quest for a title belt, or, at the very least, risk a record that's read "36-0, 29 KOs" since 2007.
    "We're getting close to the two-year anniversary since I last boxed, so, no, I guess I really wouldn't be considered an active fighter," he said this week in a FitzHitz interview.
    "Could I be? Would I be? Yes, if the right offer came along. And by the right offer, I mean the right opponent in the right state at the right time for the right money.
    "I still think I could beat a lot of heavyweights, but it remains to be seen if I'll ever get the opportunity."
    Known as "Baby Joe" to an adoring Buffalo-area fan base, Mesi began his professional career in 1997 and reeled off 28 wins against increasingly stiffer competition before meeting ex-cruiserweight champ Vassiliy Jirov in a March 13, 2004 bout in Las Vegas that changed his career path for good.
    Clearly ahead through eight rounds, Mesi tired noticeably and was punished in the final six minutes before escaping with a one-point decision on all three scorecards.
    It was later revealed that Mesi had suffered a subdural hematoma - commonly referred to as "bleeding on the brain" - which resulted in suspension from the Nevada Athletic Commission and automatic denial of attempts to renew his boxing license there after it expired in 2005.
    A two-year hiatus from the ring ended when he was licensed to fight in Puerto Rico and scored an eight-round decision over Ronald Bellamy in April 2006, then won six more fights over the subsequent 18 months in locales including Montreal, Russellville, Ark., Manistee, Mich. and Chester, W.Va.
    His most recent fight - a one-round TKO of Shannon Miller on Oct. 12, 2007 in Lincoln, R.I. - was to be followed by a bout with Terry Smith a few months later, before a shoulder injury scrubbed the scheduled date and Mesi was eventually pulled away by other interests, primarily politics.
    A run for a vacant Buffalo-area seat in the New York State Senate ended in defeat for Mesi against Republican challenger Michael Ranzenhofer last November, though he bounced back happily when he was married 10 days later.
    He and his new wife, Michelle, are expecting their first child in late March 2010, and Mesi recently took a job with Stryker, a Michigan-based medical technology company that, among other things, provides equipment to diagnose and treat patients with subdural hematomas.
    If nothing else, score one for irony.
    "I've considered a lot of things and the offers come in from time to time, but they're usually on the ESPN level, and, while I love ESPN and had great times fighting there, they don't really interest me," he said.
    "I've never fought for the money, and there was a time I would have fought for free, but I'm 35 now and my situation has changed. I've accepted a job, I'm married and expecting a child, so it would have to be for a lot of money and it would have to be worth my time."
    The door to a Mesi ring return was propped slightly open recently, when the aforementioned Nevada commission announced a slight change in policy relating to prospective licensees who've suffered brain bleeds either in the ring or out.
    Rather than a blanket disqualification from licensing, the commission will now review such applications on a case-by-case basis, according to Executive Director Keith Kizer.
    Kizer said the change arose from discussion on the commissions Medical Advisory Committee, during which Chairman Albert Capanna cited successful recoveries from head injuries sustained in auto accidents and other sports like hockey and football, where athletes were again allowed to compete "after a safe amount of time."
    Capanna also pointed out that "in the case of Joe Mesi, he was not cleared to resume his Nevada career; but in the case of Marco Antonio Barrera, who had a craniotomy, he was cleared by the board and the commission."
    Board member Todd Chapman's motion to rewrite the rule's language was unanimous approved.
    Specifically, the existing rule will be amended to read "If an applicant for a license to engage in unarmed combat or an unarmed combatant has suffered a serious head injury, including cerebral hemorrhage, the applicant or unarmed combatant must have his application for a license or for renewal of a license reviewed by the commission before a license is issued or renewed."
    Previously, it had said "the commission will not issue or renew a license to engage in unarmed combat to an applicant or unarmed combatant who has suffered cerebral hemorrhage."
    Kizer said the official change in policy will take effect Oct. 27.
    "It was a disqualifying factor and now it's going to be a case-by-case basis. Still, most cerebral hemorrhages will probably disqualify a fighter. Obviously, it's boxing we're talking about here," Kizer said. "But with the increase in imaging and other medical review procedures, it's something that can be looked at on a case-by-case basis by our doctors. It's still going to be treated very seriously."
    Exactly what it all means to Mesi is still unclear.
    Because his Nevada license expired in 2005, he would have to reapply for active status in the state.
    At such time, Kizer said, his case would be medically reviewed and he would need to appear before the commission for a hearing on the matter.
    "The more serious the history," Kizer said, "the less likely the chances are of licensure.
    "Any applicant would need to submit current medical records for review by a commission physician. Those records could also be compared and contrasted with the older medical records. Until that is done, it would be difficult to give any recommendations."
    Mesi admitted pursuit of a license is indeed something he's considering, just to what's out there.
    "I think we will soon, out of curiosity to see how we'd be treated," he said. "They made it out as if I was dying and on an iron lung, when in reality the injury was as minor as it could have been. I'm very much curious to see what would happen.
    "I always thought it was as much political as it was medical, so I think we will pursue it, just to let them see where we are and hear what they think. I'd love for them to look at my case specifically and get their thoughts. I'd like to hear that opinion."
    And should that opinion result in a thumbs-up - given the current state of the heavyweight division - who knows?
    "I would think every fighter in the world would love to box me," Mesi said. "I'm only 35 and I haven't gotten out of shape like I was during my suspension. I still believe I could beat a lot of the top heavyweights out there.
    "Could I have been a champion? Yes. Would I have been the best heavyweight in the world? I don't know. But I knew who I could beat and who I couldn't. Certain guys and certain styles would always have given me problems, but the other guys - like the Tysons and the Tuas and the Arreolas and the Chambers - they were made for me. "Could Chris Arreola on his best day hang with me? No. Probably not."
     
  5. Nay_Sayer

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    NO WAY should Mesi return.

    One good shot to the head and he's a vegestable...
     
  6. CHEF

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    read the long article.....Mesi now married, kid on the way....why risk all that.. for what reason other then cash? He wont beat a Klitschko so why fight just to fight and risk so much. IMO NO WAY should he fight. Think about your family bro!!!
     
  7. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he's refusing to start at an ESPN/undercard level, then this is a non-starter. Truly big money is hard to come by in boxing these days and no one's going to hand it to him just for showing up after fighting nobodies and disappearing for a couple of years.

    And he shouldn't do it anyway. Got a decent job, a family; move on. Incidentally, I think Chambers would give him a VERY long night.
     
  8. rickx1

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    He has absolutely no chance what so ever of beating haye.
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's nuts if he risks his life coming back. He should be a commentator.
     
  10. Lightsout_Ruben

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    Joe Mesi was a breath of fresh air during his run in the heavyweight division, however that time has long expired. Joe began to struggle as he moved up in class. He went to Hell and back with both Monte Barrett and Vasili Jirov. Joe should just enjoy the undefeated record he earned and enjoy the family life. When you have a serious documented injury there is no use in putting your self at risk. Good luck to Joe and God Bless in his future endeavors. :good
     
  11. J.R.

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    If he wants to make a little money and take an asswhooping that could possibly end his life then yeah, let him fight.
     
  12. Put-Em-Up

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    Mayweather will fight him if he drops to 144 no worries!
     
  13. bkamins

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    I agree. The guy has a steady job, a pregnant wife, and a injury few doctors can diagnose with any degree of specificity. Not to mention the simple fact that the money he's looking for simply isn't out there. Joe Mesi will never headline a multimillion dollar boxing card. Now, that might be a blow to his ego, but it's also the truth. He really never had the talent to be anything more than a potential contender...and there's no shame in that. Hell, that's more than most fighters achieve.
     
  14. FlatNose

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    And Floyd'll come in at 146!
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He already tried a comeback...what happened? :huh