Should Khan jump straight to Welter weight and clean up?

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  1. brown bomber

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    Some poeple just don't get it. :-(
     
  2. brown bomber

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  3. dwilson

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    Yep. He needs to cement his legacy but I hope he fights Cotto and PBF. They would make nice simple routine wins and help him adjust to the higher weights.


    Amir Khan is 5' 10 so he is a good height, pretty similar to Tyson. But if you measure his ears he is at least 6' 4. At that height (his true height, the other one is qouted so other fighters are less scared of him thanb they would usually) Khan can be a match for even the biggest and best heavy weights.
     
  4. brown bomber

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    Khan- Klitschko for me is 50-50. I just worry about his power not having an effect on Vlads sturdy chin. I mean if Sam Peter couldn't stop Vlad.. Khans going to have a difficult time. Maybe he should warm up against David Haye and then we'll be able to see if he's taking his incredible power up with him.
     
  5. Beatboxer

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    True. Khan could be a force at heavyweight. Even the most conservative estimations of his height have him taller than Toney...and he was competitive against the heavy's.

    As for Peter, Jeff, Amir and Sam are two completly different figthers. Peter could be described particularly at the time of the 2005 Klitschko fight as a crude slugger. Khan is a different prospect. Blessed with lightning quick handspeed comparable to that of Roy Jones and devlish power and supreme footwork I think your underestimating his ability to get inside Wlads often pawing jab. Khan would find that easy to evade and could rock Klitschkos world once inside.

    We have seen Klitschko panic and go to piece before in such an instance, floundering about like a fish out of water. And that was against a semi-retired golfer policeman! Hardly the same pedigree as an olympic silver medalist.

    Given Khans ruthless ability to finish off hurt opponents, I would say its probable that in such an instance that he would stop Klitschko. Yes, Wlads chin is decent but could it take Khans power? I think not.

    Amir Khan KO 4 Wladimir Klitschko.
     
  6. brown bomber

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    You have a point. Any thoughts on a prime Ali against Khan. Catch weight?
     
  7. Beatboxer

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    Tough one to call.

    Let me start with the catch weight factor. Its very fair to expect Ali to come down a bit in weight to face Khan.

    Its obvious that Khan despite his frame and height, is not going to be at his most effective at heavyweight. Ali though 6 foot 3, was pretty skinny and during his 60s physical prime weight around 206 pounds.

    He also won his gold medal at the olympics I believe at LHW. A catchweight clash between the two is wholly concievable at around 175 with neither really gaining any huge edge weight wise.

    As for the actual fight, ive got to say its a tough one to call. People often cite Ali as having superhuman recovery powers and an iron chin - but thats the stronger 70s version. Look at the 60s version. Dumped on his butt by Sonny Banks and hurt badly by Henry Cooper.

    Khan could easily hurt that version. He has the capabilities. Ali was a freak speedwise but then again he was fighting big slow moving guys like Liston and Chuvalo etc which served to make his speed look better than it really was (though it was still good)

    The one time he fought a crafty slick opponent like Doug Jones...my god Ali had fits.

    Who is Doug Jones compared to Amir Khan? Khan really is the prototype of a great fighter: God like handspeed, withering power in each fist, awesome fundamentals and a pretty good jaw to boot. Furthermore he would be stronger and more filled out at LHW than we have seen him yet.

    That being said, lets not count Ali out. At the weight, he probably just about edges Khan out handspeed wise(though it close). He physically was a freak. But his fundamental mistakes like dropping his hands low I believe would prove costly here.

    Look for the fight to be competitive for say the first 6 rounds. A pivotal moment however occures after Ali fails miserably in his pre fight prediction of a Tko 5 victory look for him to lose confidence and momentum. From this point I expect Khan to take over and start racking up the rounds.

    Expect Ali to attempt to regain some momentum with some bravado in the 10th. This is where Khan will strike ruthlessly putting Ali on his ass with a thunderous left hook. There will be no restbite this time for Ali, no tear in the glove Khan will be all over him like a swarm here...causing the referree to mercifully step in.

    Khan TKO 10 Ali.

    Sorry for the long winded explanation, but I just felt I had to do two of the most naturally talented fighters of all time justice.
     
  8. dwilson

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    I think that when Amir has achieved his heavy weight dream he should really think about boiling down to Straw Weight and taking on the linear champion at that weight before fighting and defeating every top fighter in each division thus being the first fighter ever to be called the undisputed champion of every single weight class.
     
  9. brown bomber

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    Don't think he'll make the weight... bit tall.
     
  10. brown bomber

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    Excellent i can see it now....
     
  11. dwilson

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    Jeeeez Jeff. :-(


    Do you not know that Amir has the worlds leading and greatest sports nutritionists at his desposal? The same guys that help the Bolton Wanderers football team keep so impressivly fit. Athelets such as Ivan Campo, dynamic speed merchants like Kevin Davies and and "slim" superstar Kevin Nolan. Khan even uses the Bolton Wanderers gym to work on his Hurcules like body. These miracle workers I am sure could turn Khan into an heavy weight and into a strwa weight over night.

    I am sure you have seen his work outs on Frank Warren TV. The kid is an animal. I saw him pull 900lbs during the build up to the Kristjansen fight. The kid can achieve anything he puts his mind to.
     
  12. brown bomber

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    Sryy mate your right.
     
  13. Beatboxer

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    Yes. I mean I don't mind people arguing for Ali perhaps eeking out a close decision victory thats not impossible though if they were to meet 10 times I think even the most ardent Ali fans would have to confess that Khan takes at least 7 of the meetings.

    Straweight is probably too tough for Amir to make Dwilson. However 130 and maybe even 126 is not impossible. I mean if DLH and Corrales big tall guys could fight at those weights with alot of success why not a specimen like Khan? He could put Henry Armstrong to shame im sure by ruling at 126, 130, 135, 140 and 147 simultaneously.

    The truth is however, no matter what Amir does the haters will also pick apart his record and find something wrong with it. He could beat Sanchez, Duran, Pryor, SRR, Monzon, Spinks and Ali in one night and still they would criticise Amir on something.

    Its just not fair god damn it.
     
  14. Fat Joe

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    ITV's comparison of Ali + Khan is valid. Both won olympic medals and have almost identical stats after 17 fights. So if Khan keeps the same momentum going he can emulate Ali, which I believe is what ITV were suggesting in their advert last week.
     
  15. brown bomber

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    If such an even were to occour how do you think Khan would go on.... if it were all in the same night.

    IMO

    Khan W15 Sanchez
    Khan KO 3 Duran (no mas)
    Khan W15 Pryor
    Khan KO7 Leonard (no mas)
    Khan KO2 Monzon (too fast)
    Khan KO1 Spinks (anything tyson can do, Khan can....)
    Khan KO10 Ali