Should Khan target Brook now???

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I can see this Morales fight coming off unfortunately, if he beats Crolla. Which I won't be looking forward to.

    Then I think the Brook fight would be a very good first one at the weight. Rather than fighting a gatekeeper as a first fight, why not fight a guy in an all-British affair, thats on the verge of a world title shot himself, undefeated and dangerous. Thats a very acceptable start at 147, more than acceptable.

    On the chin thing, I think there is a distinction between natural ability to take a punch and being in prime shape. I think its fair to say his natural durability is pretty average at best, down and hurt against Limond is not a good look. Some guys can turn up in atrocious shape and still absorb punishment, Khan will never be able to do that. But he has balanced it out by being in outstanding condition. Which leaves him at hurtable, somewhat vulnerable, but not an egg shell Maccarinelli type chin.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Yep, you're right he got on his bike for a few rounds......

    No he didn't, he shipped a couple of hard shots from a much harder puncher than Maidana (and better fighter) and came out for the next round and dominated the fight. Probably one of the few times he hasn't just thrown five punches a round and danced around the ring, poor example really.

    Mosley did indeed gas. Maidana came on in the championship rounds after being dominated throughout. They are different fights, I don't think Floyd ever looked in as bad shape as Amir did, though both had their legs taken from them.

    Look at me defending Floyd:rofl This is just a bad comparion really, and unfair to Khan as well.
     
  3. BoxingAnalyst

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    :deal Unfortunatly he probably will though.
     
  4. Geoffers

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    I don't think it's nuthugging to say that Khan at 140 takes a shot much better than he did at 135. It could be not struggling to make weight, it could be better conditioning and stronger legs/core... whatever. At 140, Khan murders Prescott and because Khan lost so badly it's a loss he should avenge.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Tommy Morrison once outmanouvered George Foreman.

    Didn't make him primed for success at the top of the sport though.

    Not saying that's what you're saying, just a point about fighters with shocking punch resistance managing to work around it.

    Your post, as always, is good throughout.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Easy win for Khan, makes sense for him but as a fan of 'El Terrible' and a fan of the top fighters taking on the best challenges I think it's a **** fight and a bad fight for Khan.

    I felt that against Maidana, but El Terrible has a much bigger challenge here. Morales won't get off, will get busted up, and flurried to a mid-rounds stoppage (and I'm being generous here) despite Khan not hitting as hard as Maidana.

    Styles make fights. See the Limond fight for a real indication of Morales' current abilities.
     
  7. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Khan is In a good position right now, the legends of yesteryear are faded and he could add the other two Mexicans on his resume by end of 2012.

    I would like to see him fight kell brOok but only when it makes sense, I.e let's see him beat a top contender or two, or capture a world title.
     
  9. TFFP

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    Yep, Morales' performance against Maidana well commendable does not mean he's making a comeback at the top level. Maidana seemed to be in poor condition for the fight, clearly thought he was going to blow the old man away. What it showed is that Morales still has toughness, still has that heart, still has a great degree of skill if you oblige him in a slugging match up close/mid range. He'll probably beat Crolla for this reason. BUT, Morales is pretty slow now. Not of mind, but footwork and handspeed. Against boxers he has almost no chance at the top level whereas he used to be able to win a boxing match, I doubt he can now. Khan is all wrong for him, it will be like MAB/Khan.
     
  10. mani0

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    Khan should not target Brooke he has not beaten any one with a pulse.
    I would rather prefer Khan to fight Mitchell but he obviously cant make 140.
     
  11. abzmanc

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    Really hope we dont get Khan vs Morales, if Bradey doesnt happen, which it probably wont, then who's available? Maidana would be good, but dont really see that happening soon. Would have said Prescott to erase the blot, but I reckon McCloskey will outpoint him.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    I actually felt his timing (more down to his experience in seeing shots that most wouldn't and his technical ability) made up his lack of handspeed, and his accuracy did for his lack of power.

    But yeah, his feet were set in stone. Not a good thing going into a fight with Khan, who will force him back, flurry him into a corner and keep throwing. In fact, Khans over reaching will probably work here.

    Morales will be jaded after a few rounds. Pacs handspeed always bothered him, and whilst he may be reinvigorated after a few years break and rolled back the years against Maidana (whilst not looking like the Morales we know and love) he is in no way prepared to fight an 140lber of Amirs ability.

    So yeah, this :deal
     
  13. TFFP

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    Yeah but he was accurate and timing shots that were there due to Maidana. Maidana was giving him shots. Hardly anything is going to be there for him against Khan. His mind might tell him to throw a counter right hand, but his body will not react quick enough. His feet won't be getting him into the requisite positions, Khan will be gone before he's even let his gloves go. It won't matter how sloppy Khan is either. Mismatch.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Agree with all of this 100%. A terrible fight that even the most optimistic Khan fans will find hard to stomach (surely!)
     
  15. BoxingAnalyst

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    :deal