A flat capped fee, which is the same as members of any country's amateur team outside the WSB are given for "travel expenses" - and no different really than a student-athlete in a team sport (themselves not professionals, nominally) getting a full athletic scholarship. In the professional world pay is free-market and unrestricted. Huge difference.
If your office full of middle-aged overweight schlubs held an interdepartmental softball tournament and your boss gave you a $100 bonus for scoring the walk-off home run, are you then a pro ballplayer? I mean, technically you are being paid to swing a bat, so...
This is all wrong and proof that you're trolling and just wanting to be correct. If I was to get paid to spar, you'd class that as a pro fight which although sparring, is non-disinguishable from actual pro fights - by your standard it should be on my record that I'm 1-0 if I win a little sparring session (this is considering I'm not a full time fighter like world title challenger Richard Frazier who was a policeman. You get paid = it's a pro fight = goes on your pro record, according to you after all, right? :hi:
A person who simoply spars and makes their living from it. What occupation would you give them? Id call them a professional boxer. I mean obviously for any fight to go on your record, it has to be a sanctioned competitive fight which obviously training/sparring isnt. Are you saying amateur fights arent competitive and sanctioned and are akin to training sessions? If you're getn paid for a competitive,sanctioned fight, then yes, that should go on your pro record. Bringing up ******ed logic stating "should training sessions count on your record? lol #smileyface" does little for your argument. Could youn just cut to the chase and give me a quick definition of what you think an amateur boxer is. and then do another quick definition for what you think a professional boxer is. Pro fighter =Person who gets paid to box Pro fight=a competitive sanctioned fight where both competitors are paid. Tell me where im going wrong.
Well now you're talking 'sanctioning'...in which case I refer you to the dude on this thread who made an amazing post about why it's not professional, thus your own logic used to disprove is now proof for WSB being amateurs. And you're also dropping arguments from before like 'full time boxer' etc. you're getting owned left, right and centre in this thread.
Ah yes, the "its not professional because the AIBA says its not professional argument. Fantastic. Ill repeat, whats your definition of an amateur boxer, and whats your definition of a professional boxer? Because all your managing to do here is completely blur the lines to the point where there isnt a difference other than the AIBA saying so. We should already be way beyond arguing whether the WSB fighters are professional. Nobody is denying they get paid. Therefore they're obviously professionals by the very definition of the word. What you've managed to do is cast a cloud on whether there is any such thing as top level amateur boxing at all. From your description, everything above junior boxing sounds professional. Its like for years how governing bodies pretended that the athletes in the Olympics were "amateurs, nudge,nudge, wink,wink"...eventually they just cut the b.s. and cut the whole "amateur" nonsense and admitted that there was no distinction between amateur and professional
Amateur isnt a word I made up. It has a specific definition that cant just be changed because some people here dont like it. That goes for the AIBA too. The same with professionalism.
Both terms mean what they mean in the realm of boxing and that can't be changed just because you don't like it.
His a troll mate don't waste time on him he just spout the same garbage argument and goes off on tangents the whole time because his argument is **** No one here agrees with him
There is no "realm of boxing" Amateur means amateur regardless of sport. So does professionalism. Track and field kept up the same charade for as long as possible too.
Yes, Im a troll for saying amateur means being an amateur...atsch If people dont agree with what I think professionalism means, maybe they should invest in a dictionary.
Fine, those words dont mean what they mean. I give up. I no longer wish to argue the meaning of English words, that have been around..well...as long as the language has been spoken. Apparently when boxing is involved the words change meaning...