Should losses be given credit when assessing a fighter's resume?

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you're assessing how good that fighter is/was then yeah of course, a close loss to a great fighter is worth more than a one sided schooling in assessing how good they are. but in terms of ATG ranking then no, a loss is a loss.
     
  2. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    man how can you say that? what if the loss was a controversial loss?

    or a loss vs an atg fighter in an atg fight . e.g. fraziers loss to ali in thrilla in manilla
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Uhm, except I then went on to provide context. Nice miss, little man.:good
     
  4. GoodOldBoy

    GoodOldBoy Active Member Full Member

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    Way that I remember it Zab Judah only should have won by a point or two. If you wanna discuss it any further then rewatch it, score it and let me know how you had it.
     
  5. GoodOldBoy

    GoodOldBoy Active Member Full Member

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    Zab Judah VS Junior Witter

    Judge: George Colon 116-112
    Judge: John Coyle 118-111
    Judge: Vittorio Urzo 118-110

    George Colon apparently agreed with me..... not that I really place alot of faith in the scoring of officials most of the time but...... it does add credibility to my claim.
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rambling about nothing in particular isn't the same as providing context. Examples are your friend, child. :good
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    If you don't negatively factor losses, than why bother positively factoring wins?

    Edit: "close decisions," "debated outcomes," "consensus robberies," "controversial stoppages," etc. all are looked at up to the beholder as well...

    Example: When Mayweather has the amazing ATG career that he does, his razor close victory over Castillo in their first fight is not all that good for his resume/legacy because it is the only close and/or debatable outcome of his whole career. However, if Mayweather in their first fight was actually DeMarcus Corley, than even a razor close victory over Castillo would be an amazing career best one for Chop Chop's limited former titlist career...