Should Louis Have Gotten Conn Out Of There Sooner?

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  1. Ronnie Raygun

    Ronnie Raygun Active Member banned Full Member

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    Your right i learned something today
    Your the biggest moron since your moms
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    This response actually typifies you so exactly, it could have been posted by your worst enemy.
     
  3. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Louis wasnt obligated to allow Conn to regain his footing upon slipping on a wet canvas? So youre saying that Louis COULD have attacked Conn while he was down from a slip but chose not to not because the rules prevented this but because he was a good sportsman? Lol. That incident happened early in the first round in a fight that the radio broadcast makes clear both fighters slipped a couple of times due the canvas being wet near the corners from the undercard. It is NOT within the rules to attavk a fighter who has slipped and fallen. Not sure where you got that from but its not.

    Regardless, im not really sure what this or somd unverified hearsay about what Blackburn may or may not have said between rounds has to do with my post.
     
  4. klompton2

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    When Dunphy interviewed Louis in the ring immediately after the fight his first question was (and im paraphrasing here because im at work and cant refer to the audio): "were you hurt at any time in the fight" to which Louis answered emphatically yes he was. Dunphy followed up asking did Conn worry Joe to which Joe replied that he was very worried and knew Conn was giving him a hard fight. Asked if he felt Conn deserved a rematch Louis answered that Conn absolutely deserved a rematch because of his great performance. When Conn was interviewed by Dunphy both he and his manager stated that they felt Louis was just a little too big for Conn but that he had fought one of the greatest performances in history, which of course he did and thats why we are discussing it 76 years later. Its kind of remarkable to me that some ghetto trash can come on here and denigrate Conns performance when 76 years of accepted boxing opinion from the greatest minds the sport has produced agrees that Conn fought one of boxings masterpieces and came within a whisker of beating one of the greatest HWs of all time despite being outweighed 25 pounds. Maybe he should go back to his "moms" for some more edumacation...
     
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  5. janitor

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    Louis could have jumped on Conn once he had regained his footing.

    He was criticized for not doing so at the time.
    I guess that there are three explanations for the turnaround:

    1. Conn tired
    2. Louis upped the pace/changed tactics.
    3. Conn made an unforced error.
    4. Conn was simply unlucky.

    I think that two is possible.
     
  6. klompton2

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    Yeah right. Louis, a black man who spent his life wearing a dead pan face at his handlers instructions to avoid inflamming racists was criticized for not taking unfair, unsportsmanlike advantage of a smaller white champion who had just slipped snd fallen. Exactly who were all of these people who criticized Louis for not taking what everyone would have agreed would have been unfair advantage?

    It COULD have been #2 if Louis actually exhibited an increased pace over the earlier rounds but he didnt. In reality in the earlier rounds Conn was moving more and in the 13th, after hurting Louis in 12th, he stood right in front of him. Thats the difference. If you can see Louis suddenly roaring out of his corner and pursuing Conn at greater speed than in the earlier rounds your imagination is better than mine.
     
  7. janitor

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    Some newspapers seem to have praised his sportsmanship for not capitalizing on Conn's mistake.
    Is it possible that Louis was simply trying for a right hand counter, to set up the finish, in the fateful round?
     
  8. klompton2

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    Sportsmanship is generally praised, thats a VERY different thing from criticizing for not taking unfair advantage.

    So you didnt see Louis throw any right hand counters prior to 13? Looking for a counter is a far cry from cranking up the pace anyway. But Louis was throwing right hands all night.
     
  9. mcvey

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    I couldn't agree more!