Should Mayweather be Fighting Cotto's Opponents

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  1. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd started at 130 ffs
     
  2. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    but pedjr is the same size as the guy who started at 106?:rofl


    but 10m/lb penalty is such a big deal?:deal


    *****s excuses are getting twisted as more excuses need to be strawn.:hi:
     
  3. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What the hell are you rambling about?
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    When he was a kid sure, but how many fighters get smaller as they age? He's filled out and he's never going back to 130 any more than Pacquiao can still make 106. No, Floyd is just the right size to be a welterweight champion and just a shade under what most middleweights champs are. 147-154 is the sweet spot for him, but that's not really what we are talking about, is it? I'm saying that it is easier with his larger frame to put on the weight than Cotto with his smaller frame.

    When fighters are as dominant at a weight as Floyd is at welterweight they usually move up a weight class. Historically, the best lightweights moved up to welterweight, the best welterweights moved up to middleweight, middleweights moved up to light-heavy, and light-heavies took their chances with the heavyweights. Pac and Marquez could have stayed down at lightweight their whole careers. Hopkins moved up to light heavyweight after ruling the middleweight division for a decade. Jones Jr took a belt off John Ruiz and James Toney knocked out Evander Holyfield. This sort of thing is not without precedent even in the modern age.

    Some people like to claim that they accomplished this feat and are multiple division champions, but usually that's just them deciding to stop cutting weight and exploiting the day before fight weigh in system, moving up to where they really belonged all along. You've got guys like Chavez Jr doing this stuff, cutting to middleweight when his natural weight class is light-heavyweight, and so forth. He's just the worst offender right now, but the sport is full of examples.

    My point, yes Floyd started at 130, and Chavez Jr started at 160 and Pac started at 106. Most fighters start lower than their natural weight class. Sergio Martinez started as a welterweight but nobody would claim he doesn't belong at middleweight now.
     
  5. bodyopus

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    At 16 they were both fighting at the same weight.

    Why would OSDT such a big deal if u have nothing to hide?
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    They might have been the same weight coming out of their mother's vaginas if you want to go real far back.
     
  7. bodyopus

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    How that makes any sense, I don't know.

    Ok, how about the fact that Pac has been coming into the ring in as a WW since he was a Super Featherweight. Care to guess what Floyd was weighing in the ring when he was at that weight? Does you get it now or do you need a puppet show to understand?
     
  8. robert80

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    Muppets, floyd does not dance to keyboard warriors tune right!!
     
  9. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Oh no, you're clearly ******ed. We don't need any more proof of that.... What kind of puppet show?
     
  10. triplehook

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    :patsch:patsch:patsch
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I really want to see the Pac-Mayweather feud acted out as puppets now.
     
  12. triplehook

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    how about a video game of the entire experience? ending with them in the ring at 90 yrs old, both die in the ring before a punch is thrown.
     
  13. OvidsExile

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    Part of me thinks it should be done the way Team America did it with marionettes on strings. Another part thinks it would be more authentic with like those boxing nun puppets. And then a third part wants to see it acted out real cheap and low class with badly made sock puppets, one of 'ems got a stick like a Punch and Judy show. You get one of them little cardboard box stands, with little Arum and little Hayman puppets. You film it all like a documentary, like When We Were Kings, super serious, but with puppets.
     
  14. Skellz

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    Weight doesn't matter? But when it suits you all, you remember canelo was drained.... Lmao.
     
  15. nicamarvin

    nicamarvin Guest

    YOU Know about Boxer Sir.. unlike Most of these Pac.turds... :deal