Should Oscar have quit when he did?

Oscar wasn't in the fight. It wasn't stopped because of injuries, but simply because Oscar wasn't competitive.

 

Totally different.

One was getting a brutally beating.

The other was probably getting KO'd late.

 

He is obviously trying to pound the myth that Oscar quit, which isn't true. Nacho himself, said that he was going to stop it the round before, and Oscar begged him to give him another round to turn the tide. He said that after that round, HE decided to stop the fight, and he and the ref were the one's talking... and THEY decided to stop it. Oscar didn't quit.

Keep trying though, if it makes you feel better.

 

More like, the other was winning the fight 4 rounds to 2, and we all just saw Lennox collapse so hard into his own stool after the round that he almost fell off of it. It wasn't until later that people who obviously hadn't seen Vitali fight before realized that he ALWAYS looks the way that he looked against Lewis when going back to his corner, and during the action. However, he NEVER stops.

Lewis was saved against Vitali. Oscar was saved from a more sustained pounding by his corner. The fights were nothing alike.

 

This is partially true, Oscar never begged not to stop the fight however, he kinda nodded, but by that point he was in a daze probably from shock, faitque or a few other reasons. Nacho was basically telling him if he didn't throw punches or if he didn't show any kind of heart out there he was calling the fight. The ref also warned Oscar that he would stop it if Oscar didn't intillengently defended himself.

Oscar was in La La land a few rounds before the stoppage so all and all a good stoppage would be my take on it, but no Oscar was not so galant and brave that he begged his corner to not stop it, it was just a broken man that lost his will to fight by a beating he was taking throughout the fight.

 

I felt Lennox was wearing Vitali down.....

But anyways.

 

We aren't shown what happens in the corner for the entire minute. I will take Nacho's word for it. A fighter doesn't have to get down on his knees a beg. A simple, "give me a round" is the same thing. Don't take words so literally. Oscar is classy, and he knew that there was no point in fighting with the people who were looking after him. He didn't agree for them to stop it, but he wasn't fighting with them when they did. He is smart enough to know that they were looking out for him, and he tried everything that he could. He wasn't winning, not only could he not stop Pac from connecting at will, but he couldn't even throw a decent punch himself. He couldn't move... it was over. All of the pussies who have never competed in a physical one on one contact sport have no idea what that's like.

 

I think Manny Steward was right, it was the right thing to do.

DLH has been fighting for quite some time, and he is getting up there in age. Taking much more punishment could have had serious health consquences. Honestly if it would have gone one more round, the ref would have stopped it during the round anyways. I was surprised he didn't stop it at the end of the 8th when oscar was getting pummeled

 

You are not alone. I felt the opposite. Not that I felt like Vitali was as fresh as the moment he stepped into the ring, however he walked all the way across the corner to his stool, very sturdy, and leaped up and had enough energy to go crazy about the stoppage, climb ropes, demand a rematch from Lewis, ect... he clearly had a lot of fight left in him. Lewis however collapsed on his stool after the round and looked completely spent. It seemed to me that Lewis pretty much had given it everything that he had to try and knock Vitali out. He didn't knock him out, but luckily for him, imo... the doctor felt like the cut was too bad for the fight to keep going. Personally... I didn't think that the cut that actually stopped the fight was much worse than when it had happened in the first place. He received other cuts, but they weren't the reason why the fight was stopped. It was a HORRIBLE cut, for sure. However, Vitali could clearly still see, and he was still winning the fight regardless of his cut, so I felt that they should have let it go on. If they were going to stop it in the 6th, it made no sense to let it go after the 3rd. The cut was just as nasty then.

 

Everything that Widowmaker said. :good

The pathetic irony is that Oscar did ask for another round, but then people deride him for not begging and causing a scene, yet if he had, the same people would then turn around and call him an idiot for wanting to continue and that they were glad it was stopped because he was getting so badly beaten.

Irrational hatred for a fighter. :verysad

 

Apart from against Byrd obviously...

 

Gaygb.

 

Point blank dude was in La La land from a few rounds prior to the stoppage, he really didn't answer to any of Nachos questions and didn't respond intelligently past the first 4 or 5 rounds. I used this as an indication that Oscar wouldn't of said to Nacho give me one more round. I just don't think he was in a cohorent state of mind to do so. If anything I give more credence that Nacho was told by the person that pays his bills to make a statement that makes Oscar look a little bit better.

In the end it's all here say or speculation if anything we should take from this was a man's spirit was broken down and really there was no need for anymore of a beating. Honestly though how many of us wouldn't of given up after that though? Oscar showed class in defeat, but he definitely did not have the look of a fighter that wanted to go on.

Also to answer the original question by the thread starter, yes he probably should've given up a round before.

PS: Why is there so much hate for Wlad on these boards o.o