Should Oscar have quit when he did?

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  1. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, the cut was definitely bad, but the time it was stopped couldn't have been more of a blessing for Lewis.
    Anything could have happened, but it seemed to me like Vitali had the momentum (even with the cut), and Lewis was wearing down. I think the only way lewis would win is to KO Vitali at that point, and don't believe he had enough to do that.
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    People who think that Vitali was on his way to getting knocked out, or that he was worn out, don't need to look any further than that MONSTER uppercut that Lewis landed in the 6th round, that Vitali walked right through. If Vitali was worn out, and getting ready to go... he would have went. I think that uppercut took much more out of Lewis mentally, than it did out of Vitali.
     
  3. repsaccer

    repsaccer Aficionado Full Member

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    I think in the Lewis Klitschko fight the decision of the ring doctor was debatable, but not outrageous. I believe the cut might have been bad enough to allow for serious eye damage upon further punches. However I was disappointed with that end of the fight and i believe Klitschko would have won the fight if they would have been allowed to continue. In that sense one could argue Vitaly was robbed and he clearly felt so.

    The De La Hoya fight was a totally different situation. He was getting beat up badly and the referee and Nacho didnt see any reason to continue the utterly onesided onslaught. I agree with them. Oscar had nothing left by the end of that fight and continuing it would only endanger De La Hoya more. To protect a fighters health - and a fighter that was clearly beaten - they stopped the fight. A sensible decision IMO, so YES he should have quit.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Just because he could take that kind of shot half way through, doesn't mean Vitali is going to walk through a similar shot in round 9 or 10. Vitali looked to be getting very tired to me, and that version of Lewis was awful. Prime for prime, there is no contest and that also applies to that guy in your avatar.
     
  5. Walter Smith Jr

    Walter Smith Jr New Member Full Member

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    why risk his health,he has a family.i wouldnt want to whatch someone take a one sided beating without any chance of him tuning the tide.
     
  6. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Coz Chuck Norris sweat flew to Manny's mouth. Giving him godly and insane speed and power.

    True Story.
     
  7. moneymayweather

    moneymayweather Active Member Full Member

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    the dude was gettin paid 20 ****in million dollars for the fight, don't quit in your corner..
     
  8. triplehknls

    triplehknls New Member Full Member

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    Nacho told Osczar he would like to stop the fight and left it up to Oscar, He asked him is it ok to stop it. Oscar said Yes.
     
  9. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    yeah right, no contest, a Prime Vitali, who never truly lost a fight, never hurt, would stand NO CHANCE, against a guy who's been knocked out cold 2 times by lesser fighter.

    Right
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    :lol: You do realize that people actually saw this fight, don't you? Oscar never said "yes" to anything. You could hear Nacho pleading over and over with Oscar about stopping the fight. If Oscar was agreeing with him, he wouldn't have had to keep pleading with him. The conversation that you heard at the tail end wasn't between Oscar and Nacho... it was between Nacho and the Ref. The camera is on Oscar, and you can see that he isn't saying a damn thing at that point.
     
  11. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The entries for next weeks quote of the week thread are still flooding in I see :rofl:rofl
     
  12. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    HUm..i may have imagined that but...i remember his team saying they were stopping it and ending with: Are you ok with that Oscar? Right in front of the camera (looks like they wanted to back them up in case DLH comes back and ***** his team). ANd Oscar said yes.
     
  13. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think de la Hoya was just mentally destroyed. Nothing was working. He was getting beaten to the punch with lethal regularity. His corner saw it in his face as he walked towards them.

    Pacquiao was stronger than dlH expected, faster of hand, quicker of foot and sharper of reflexes.

    It was just a case of a systematic beating that took 8 rounds to fully sink in.
    de la Hoya has nothing to be ashamed about. It happens in boxing.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Oscar is a quitter now just like Cotto is.

    They will forever be known for quitting in a fight.
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Oh yeah... here we go again with the "versions" of Lewis. I always loved how Lennox Lewis could morph into different "versions" of himself for his bad performances. Funny how Vitali, at the same age as Lewis was against him, was able to come out of a 4 year retirement... several injuries... two surgeries.... and didn't need those type of excuses when he manhandled Sam Peter. Had Lewis not been beat around by Vitali in that fight, people would have just kept saying that Lewis was in his prime, on top of his game, ect.... Yet, since Vitali pounded on Lewis, and honestly made him look silly half the time... people like to claim that was Lewis at his worse. It must be nice to be able to mold him into whatever you need him to be for any given fight. He wins, he was at his best. He loses or has a bad performance, and it was a different "version" of Lewis.

    First of all, Lewis would have never made it to round 9 or 10... he was spent. Second, everyone says that Vitali is getting tired in EVERY fight. Third, Lennox Lewis was considered to be on the top of his game "like a fine wine, getting better with age", until he started getting his ears boxed off by Klitschko. Point number four, and you might want to think about this. Vitali was COMPLETELY green going into that fight against Lewis. It was his first mega fight, and he was thrown into on a couple weeks notice. Lewis was already training for a 12 round main event fight against a top contender... Vitali was only training for a 10 round fight! An undercard against Boswell, who everyone knew that he would roll over. Lewis' big fight experience CLEARLY outweighs a few years of age difference between them. At that point Vitali wasn't even at the top of his game. EVERY single person that has ever worked with Vitali will tell you that he became a much greater fighter directly after that fight. His confidence in himself grew, and you can see it in the ring. He really opened up with his punches after that fight, and gained a lot of experience and learned how to really enforce his ring generalship.