Should Pac walk down Floyd a la Hatton?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You idiot! Mayweather switched to a high guard and broke Judah down.

    Manny was still doing the same BS for an entire 12 rounds against a guy with a high guard like a damned robot!

    Then he was getting caught EASILY with straight rights down the pipe by a guy who isn't know for speed! WTF?

    Seriously, you need to spend a little time in a boxing gym. :bbb:yep
     
  2. Kel1981

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    That's all Pac needs to do.
     
  3. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He fights every southpaw with a high guard you dork. I think I've watched more of Mayweather's fights then you have.

    Floyd had to wait 6 rounds for Zab to tire to engage him (he said this after the fight, go see for yourself). If Manny Pacquiao was in the ring that night, Floyd would have gotten his head knocked off. I think even you can admit this, or your obviously the one who doesn't know **** about boxing.
     
  4. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he scored 6 punches per round were did the success happen?
     
  5. Gander Tasco

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    Here's the Floyd Mayweather that people think will dominate Pacquiao (actually this is probably a better, more active version of Floyd:


    [yt]din0rds-EfI[/yt]
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Judah had success when he countered Floyd. Not when he attacked. Infact when Judah tried to get off first he was countered and beaten just like every fighter who tries to fight Floyd. Judah's 3 hardest punches landed were him counter punching Floyd.

    So the Pacquiao who fought Marquez suddenly became a 2 handed fighter a mere 3 months after the fight? You do realize the fight with Marquez was only 2 years ago dont you?

    However that has nothing to do with the fact that Pacquiao is a magnet for the right hand. Dont know if he was a one handed fighter but he certainly got beaten with one hand by both Morales and Marquez. Pac's been fighting left hand orientated fighters since he's moved up, he hasnt dealt with a cagey fighter with a great right hand.
    Morales and Marquez are both great counter punchers, same as Floyd who is actually the greatest counter puncher in the game.
    Doesnt matter when that 1 shot lands 100% of the time. Most fighters will throw 10 punches, land 2. Floyd throws 5 punches lands 4. Which is better?

    Given that Cotto and Clottey barely hit Pacquiao, and Pacquiao still looked like a battered women after both fights, imagine what Mayweathers gonna do.

    Btw, hows Pacquiao gonna handle Floyds jab? This isnt short armed Cotto or Hatton, this is a true 72 inch laser precision jab coming at you while Floyd is on the move. How will he stablize Floyd long enough to initiate the offense without getting sloppy and being countered?
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

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    5 minutes of highlights. Maybe 3-4 clean punches that actually landed. Most were rolled, slipped or picked off.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :rofl Floyd was pressuring and breaking down Judah the entire fight.

    If you actually had watched the fight you'd know after 4 rounds, 3 of which Judah won, Mayweather actually had landed more punches. Floyd broke Judah down, he didnt gas.


    Hell Floyd out threw judah 40 something to 20 something. How do you gas throwing 20 punches in 4 rounds?



    Manny isnt near the defender nor counter puncher of Zab Judah. If Manny got beaten down by Morales and Marquez, and looked like a battered wife against Cotto and Clottey who barely landed anything, what makes you think Floyd will be easy work?
     
  9. DemolitionDan

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    Myth: Hatton got his ass kicked by Floyd
    Myth: Hatton was a "mediocre" fighter
    Myth: Hatton rocked Floyd with a jab

    To answer the question no Manny shouldn't do that because Manny is a talented fighter and is very well rounded. Bounce in and out, throw punches in bunches, etc. Manny doesn't need to swarm Floyd.
     
  10. Gander Tasco

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    ^ I didn't say it'd be easy work (unlike you Floyd fans I actually give Floyd some respect in this fight, which you can't give any to Manny). But I think Pac beats him clearly: because for the most obvious reason, Zab Judah took him 12 rounds in a competitive fight. Floyd had to wait for him to gas to beat him (HE SAID THIS AFTER THE FIGHT, I'm just repeating what he said). The same Zab who wouldn't last 3 rounds with Pacquiao. Anyway this fight just needs to happen, it's a great matchup.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

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    :patsch He uses the high guard in addition too idiot. He went AFTER Judah you dork. Man you obviously aren't learning anything in what you are watching!

    6 rounds? Man I am a DIE-HARD Judah fan and Judah was literally in trouble midway in the 4th. The only thing to be said at the 6th round was that Judah was MAYBE ahead or at a draw.

    Man you are a serious *******. Why don't you go watch Pac/Clottey again. Then watch how EASILY average joe ass Clottey hits Pac with straight rights. Then take note of how Clottey is COMPLETELY unharmed while in his guard blocking punches.

    Hell, had Clottey jabbed and thrown straight rights regularly he would have knocked Pac's simple but spark out! Pac's face was all busted up!
     
  12. bald_head_slick

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    Styles make fights. Other than being southpaw, please list the similarities between Judah/Corely and Pac. Please list! :deal
     
  13. Gander Tasco

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    lol wrong. I counted like 3-4 straight left hands to the head, 3-4 to the body, hooks to the body (that's not counting the counterpunches he landed). This is from a very low output defensive southpaw. All the while Floyd is clammed up and not doing anything in return.

    He beats ALL Southpaws by fighting aggressively off the front foot and leading with straight rights. You can go all the back to the Corley and Mitchell fights, it's the same thing. The difference is he wasn't fight sharp, quick-handed southpaws back then.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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    LMAO! So you think Pac defends the straight right well? Pac's defense is so horrible he is tailor made for that! Clottey busted him up!
     
  15. Gander Tasco

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    The similarity is that Floyd was hit clean against Corley and Judah probably more then any other fight. And he was rocked in both fights.

    The similarity between Judah and Pac? The fact that Judah's fast hands and southpaw style were giving Floyd problems, dur.

    The fact that Judah, every time he was letting his hands go was having success on Floyd. It wasn't until he completely dropped his punch output that Floyd took over. The same thing happened in the Cotto fight. That's a Judah trademark.

    Take everything Judah did on Floyd offensively and multiply it by like 1000.

    Clottey landed a few straight rights on Manny, get ****ing real man. Manny parried most of those rights he threw anyway, watch the fight more closely. Clottey still couldn't win 1 round, and Floyd BARELY throws more punches then that guy. And Floyd is a powderpuff hitter. He can't break a nail at welterweight. There you go.