Should Plant have taken the Canelo fight?

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  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes , it was a very stupid move not to take it. He just lay the opportunity to turn himself into a household name. And for what? Coming off an easy victory against an unknown fighter that did nothing for his stock. And saying 11 weeks in between is not enough time? Please this was a lotto ticket and he should have took 3 weeks break and got his ass back in the gym and went for broke. This was game time and he decided to sit the bench. How many great fighters made their name on 2 weeks notice fights, 4 weeks , **** 1 week.. But 11 weeks isn't enough.. Bull****
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Oscar and co so badly wanted Feigenbutzhoffer to win so they could grab a strap at 168 off another Rocky From Stocky level world champ.

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  3. kirk

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    I was fairly critical of Plant declining the Canelo fight... and I still am to a degree, but... heres his side of the story and I do understand his perspective a bit more now.

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  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Too much tap dancing from Plant.

    If he didn't want to take the fight unless he felt 100% ready then fine but opportunities like that only come once in a while and sometimes you have to man-up.

    He might lose his next fight and the opportunity to fight the man at the top might vanish.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Supposedly fighters have evolved and are stronger now, have better training, better nutrition than back in the 20s, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's, when elite fighters fought 3-9 times a year a lot of times against the best back to back, but Plant who just had an easy fight doesn't have the physical strength or mentality to fight three months later??? Lmao!!

    Anyone else remember an aging Erik Morales losing to MAB in a brutal war, only to fight And beat Manny Pacquiao three months later??

    Some fighters are not cut out to be legends.. Plant surely is proving he's not.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I think he got bad advice. He used to fight 3-5 times a year not too long ago.
     
  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Well ya. Its normal to fight frequently starting out and against poor opposition. As your training camps improve and your level of opposition improve, the number of fights a year usually decrease.

    But ya.... no I as much as Id like to I cant defend this. I get everything hes saying and I understand why he thinks it now but this isnt a regular fight. This is a huge huge opportunity.

    But hey... if he doesnt feel he would be 100% in this timeframe, then it is what it is. Can I really blame him for not wanting to fight someone of Canelos level if hes not 100%? I dont know
     
  8. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Why would he do otherwise? It is the PBC way.
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree that if he doesn't feel 100% then perhaps he shouldn't take the fight. What bothers me is that its hard for me to believe that a training camp would have taken so much out of him. He is in the absolute physical prime of his life. He will likely never be stronger than what he is during these years of his life, so I find it very odd that a prime fighter would use that as an excuse.

    I can probably see a fighter like Kovalev needing more time for recovery since he is in his mid 30's and doesn't take very good care of his body according to rumors, but Caleb Plant? Canelo had a long trai ing camp for Golovkin, had a high stress, brutal 12 rounds against Golovkin, and then three months later moved up and fought an impeccable fight against Fielding.

    I get Fielding is not in Canelo's level, but a physically prime fighter should be able to recover from training rather easily, at least from my experience watching boxing all these years. Maybe Plant is not cut out of the same cloth, but I smell Haymon Fish with this... He advised Quillin to randomly forfeit his titles, he advised Wilder to pass on the DAZN 100 million dollar contract, he advised Ruiz to drop the trainer who trained him to his title win, and now suddenly another Haymon fighter passes up on a mega fight for mega money? Doesn't make sense at all. I just don't like how Haymon has prevented many good fights from happening.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Just a sec IsaL How on earth can the Ginger chicken LEGITIMALLY compete at 160, 168 & 175 weight limits ??? Oh I know ILLEGALLY!!!
    Ginger is special. Biggest laugh is YOU still support him
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    This mini War & Peace type post comes from a guy thats never been inside a boxing ring dont forget. Dont be too hard on him
     
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  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I’m a belt holder or top fighter within 3 weight classes of Canelo I’m keeping the months of May & September open / available every gawd damn year & set up fights right after when / if he passes on me.
     
  13. Rock0052

    Rock0052 VIP Member Full Member

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    He knows his body better than anyone else does. If the ask was too quick a turnaround, it's too quick a turnaround. He doesn't come to the table with the desperation for a payday that Kovalev had.