Should Poland start using Black fighters to represent their country?

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  1. caneman

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    Good. You understand then that being Black and being a British citizen is possible that does not require them to be indegeous British people.
     
  2. The_President

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    Racists believe the hype that blacks are not indigenous to Britian when in fact, Africans have been shown to have inhabited England well before the Romans, Vikings, or any other whites.
    Ya'll should read a few books and tune out that brain-dead UFC.
     
  3. caneman

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    How about this instance? Let's a say a 5th generation African, who was born in Poland, who's great great grandparents immigrated from Africa in the 1800s, whos desendants have intermarried with ethnic Poles. Basically a Black guy who looks Black but mixed with Pole and African heritage, speaks no African language, lives like a typical Pole. Would you have a problem him representing Poland in any sport?
     
  4. freelaw

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    Sure. And I don't think anyone claims Lewis, Haye or Frank Bruno for that matter, are not British if it's about citizenship. Some just indentify nationality with ethnicity which isn't that out of line.

    And that would make the British nationality of said fighters, at least questionable. You have to agree..
     
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    What about the United States and it's American citizens? Your logic implies only native Americans (formerly referred to as American Indians) are the only ones who have a right to be called Americans. Your case implies Nationality and Ethnicity should be mutually exclusive to each other. It may not constitute racism, but it does constitute ethnocentrism, who's underlying concepts are very similar to racism.

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  6. Scotty321

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    wow... I hope these "pure" Poles are proud of the picture they are painting of their beloved country.
     
  7. freelaw

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    Yes. In an ethnical sense that's how it is.

    No. Because I don't believe that:

    There's no measuring in my logic. I only try to state facts. Like stating pigeons are pigeons and seagulls are seagulls. I don't say one is better than another.
     
  8. caneman

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    Just bumping this question again but with some edits:

    How about this instance? Let's a say a 5th generation African, who was born in Poland, who's great great grandparents immigrated from Africa in the 1800s, whos desendants have intermarried with ethnic Poles. Basically a Black guy who looks Black but mixed with Pole and African heritage, has a Polish first name and surname, speaks no African language, speaks Polish and lives like a typical Pole. Would you have a problem him representing Poland in any sport?
     
  9. freelaw

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    I would say that he's mixed. Who does he officially represent is of secondary importance to me. I would think that he's a part Polish - part African fighter.
     
  10. caneman

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    Yes, it's evident that he is mixed ethnically as I've stated hypothetically.

    But would you have a problem for him to represent Poland in sports in the same way you have a problem with Haye and Lewis representing the United Kingdom as British citizens?
     
  11. Loufatski

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    Sure he is, he's pure black.
     
  12. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Unless the guy would be mostly of Polish descent, for instance like 1/4 Nigerian and 3/4 Polish. I don't have that big of a problem with Haye as he seems fairly half indigenous Brit.

    And listen, these things are really of secondary importance to me, mate. I don't suffer from Lewis being listed as British, I enjoy his fights and that's counts to me :good
     
  13. Relentless

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    no such thing
     
  14. Master

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    Hahahaha this is a joke.I am Polish and Lennox and David are British, this is obvious

    BTW we had a top striker in our Polish football team whose name was Emmenuel Olisadebe, sounds quite polish:)Also in Euro 2008 Roger Guerreiro was in our team.Our best MMA fighter is Mamed Khalidov

    Poles in general arent racists, there are some problems, but as i said before, main reason is lack of multicultural awareness.But it is changing.
     
  15. freelaw

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    No.. Again. Let me put it this way:

    Lennox and Haye are representing a country and I don't have a problem with that as countries can be multinational. What I have a "problem" with is them representing a British nation as their ancestry is not British.

    So again, I wouldn't have a problem with this genetically African fighter representing Republic Of Poland. I would just look at him more like at an African as ethnicity is more important (or rather - interesting to watch) to me when comparing, matching fighters.