Should Ring Magazine put Hatton back in the P4P top ten?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Should Ring Magazine put Hatton back in the P4P top ten?

    The top ten as of Nov. 17, 2008

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Antonio Margarito
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Paul Williams
     
    JonOli, Nov 23, 2008
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  2. Jack Dempsey

    Jack Dempsey Legend Full Member

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    Why is Hopkins so high?, he was there or thereabouts despite losing to Taylor twice and Calzaghe, looks like the yanks were terrified of having a list full of foreigners
     
    Jack Dempsey, Nov 24, 2008
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  3. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why is Hopkins so high? Because GBP own the Ring of course.

    No, Ricky is not top 10 P4P in my view.
     
    Chinny, Nov 24, 2008
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  4. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    ricky is still not top ten IMO
     
    Benjiabc, Nov 24, 2008
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  5. Jimbo

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    P4P is so subjective anyway, there are a couple in the list like Williams or Cotto that Hatton could easily get put above in terms of career wins, but I think the problem for Hatton is that he doesn't really fight in a "P4P style". That is re relies on his strength and stamina rather than having a slick boxing technique which would easily move up the weight divisions.

    P4P by its very nature is always likely to favour boxers over swarmers and the fact that Hatton has struggled every time he's moved to 147 makes him an unlikely candidate for the P4P lists in my opinion.
     
    Jimbo, Nov 24, 2008
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  6. Benjiabc

    Benjiabc The Nottingham Hitman Full Member

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    exactly, your spot on with this mate
     
    Benjiabc, Nov 24, 2008
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  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A total schooling (performance of the year) victory over Ring P4P top ten rated fighter Kelly Pavlik, the working of a very convincing points victory over Antonio Tarver, beating Winky Wright, and a what some see as a close, much debated, split decision loss to the P4P no3 Joe Calzaghe - which some argue he won.
     
    JonOli, Nov 24, 2008
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  8. TehRileh

    TehRileh HUDDERSFIELD TOWN FC Full Member

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    I think hatton has done more than Paul Willams.
     
    TehRileh, Nov 24, 2008
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  9. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Personally I'd sneak him in at number 10 - but I may be a bit biased. He's barely dropped a round in his last two fights, and convincingly dispatched of the Ring ranked no1 contender in his last fight. I also think that he was perhaps a bit harshly treated after losing to P4P no1 Floyd - and getting dropped like a stone from the list.

    Yea, Ricky looked good last time out, stick him in at number 10 I say.:D :wink:
     
    JonOli, Nov 24, 2008
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  10. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just outside for me.
     
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  11. TehRileh

    TehRileh HUDDERSFIELD TOWN FC Full Member

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    Ricky gets stopped by p4p number 1 - gets dropped
    Cotto more or less quits against someone who wasnt even rated in the top 10 i dont think and he stays comfortabley in.
     
    TehRileh, Nov 24, 2008
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  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I agree that it does seem a little ****ed up
     
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  13. Claypole

    Claypole Boxing Addict banned

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    :goodYep, this just about sums it up.
     
    Claypole, Nov 24, 2008
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  14. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto and Williams (especially Williams) shouldn't be there. How the hell has Williams got on that list?!

    Hatton? Arguably, just about.
     
    trotter, Nov 24, 2008
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  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I always had him about #10 anyway - beating Paulie (whom I think is VERY ordinary) doesn't do much to change that.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Nov 24, 2008
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