Should Ring Magazine put Hatton back in the P4P top ten?

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The new Ring P4P list...
    1. Manny Pacquiao
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    Record: 47-3-2 (36 KOs)
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    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
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    3. Joe Calzaghe
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    4. Bernard Hopkins
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    5. Israel Vazquez
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    6. Antonio Margarito

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    7. Rafael Marquez
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    8. Miguel Cotto
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    9. Ivan Calderon
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    10. Ricky Hatton

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  2. Kid Lucky

    Kid Lucky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For me it's got to be based on performances and quality of opposition. Unless fighters are based in US or take on other 'world champions' they are always going to struggle in this list - look at the difference before/after Lacey for Calzaghe.

    Initially I would have thought that Ricky should be outside, but thinking about who should replace him I worked through to people like Darchinyan as he's beat good quality opposition, but only 3 or 4 fights ago he was being knocked out by Donaire - and would he get rated above Hatton based on performances and quality of opposition? At that weight probably not.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I can't see that being the cause, GBP know they have to seen to be impartial towards fighters connected to them (Hatton and Hopkins were both dropped without a second though when they lost) and also it took the magazine close on a decade to get its reputation (and circulation) back after the last ratings fixing scandal.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't get it. It's perhaps debatable that Hatton should get in at number ten, that's fair enough, but it's certainly not worthy of screaming scandal, imo. He has a very good case to be there...
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    People like a good conspiracy theory, its just human nature.
     
  6. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I must admit I'm not too confident they won't stick Oscar in there after beating Pac.
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I'm hoping they drop Pac a place or 2 if he loses just for the comedy value over on the General Forum, the place will go into meltdown.:lol:
     
  8. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    New Ring p4p list...

    P4P NO 1
    Oscar De La Hoya
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    Record: 40-5-0 (30 KOs)
    Ranking: This Week: #1| Last Week: #200

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  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    How on earth does Hatton enter the P4P rankings? Based on what exactly? Paulie Malinaggi? Is this even serious?
     
  10. 9Ball

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    Regardless of your hate for Hatton you have to admit his performance in totally outclassing, outspeeding, outthinking and outboxing Malignaggi was very impressive.

    Wins and losses have a lot to do with pfp lists for obvious reasons.
    Going on his performance against Lazcano I would say not, but the sheer ease of victory and level of dominance over Paulie gives Hatton much more of a leg up into the top ten.

    IMO

    :good
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    So all he has to do is win one fight against one of the worst champions at 140 in 140`s history and he gets put back in the top 10? Yeah ok buddy :roll:
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Based on one of the earlier posts it appears I was right. Even if DLH loses, it helps make the Hatton v PAC fight better cos thats still two P4Pers. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy but don't be suprised if the mentality will favour GBP fighters. Plus, we are talking about the ring magazine. The same magazine that had a ratings scandal.
     
  13. steveedster

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    Hatton has only ever been beaten by 1 fighter, and he was the current P4P no. 1, he has since had 2 victories against decent level opposition, why shouldnt he be in at the lower end of the top 10?
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Wow P4P is soooo subjective now that no one seems to know exactly what it means. :roll:
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Of course it's subjective, or probably 'speculative' better describes it. That's the entire point.

    But joining in a discussion on it, then dismissing it on that basis, is like joining a discussion on what lottery numbers people are choosing this week, then sneering at others for choosing in an unscientific manner.