Should round 3 of Pac/Cotto be scored as 9-9? (video)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by homebrand, Apr 26, 2010.


  1. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,674
    3
    Jan 1, 2009
    thanks to rochsolloch for the video, here is round 3 to refresh your memory:


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLO29K3fZQ&feature[/ame]


    Pac scores a knockdown, but IMO Cotto wins the rest of the round - but did he do enough to get a 9-9?
     
  2. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,388
    2
    Mar 14, 2010
    Again for the 10th time, there is no such thing as a 9-9 round without a point deduction. 2 of the judges scored it 10-9 Pac because with knockout normally 10-8 with Cotto winning round makes it 10-9

    10 point must system means there must be 10 points scored for at least one fighter unless there is a point deduction.
     
  3. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,674
    3
    Jan 1, 2009
    you are wrong.

    Awarding Points

    For each round, judges determine the score using the ten-point must system. This means that (usually) the winner of the round gets ten points, and the loser gets nine points. There are exceptions to this rule. For example, when a fighter is knocked down, that fighter loses a point. So if the fighter that was knocked down loses the round the score would be 10 to 8 for that round. If the fighter that was knocked down wins the round (which is rare) the score would be 9 to 9. If a fighter is knocked down twice, the score would normally be 10 to 7 for the round. If three knockdowns occur you should have a 10 to 6 round, etc. Also, it is possible for a judge to score a round as a tie, which is exceedingly rare. In this case the score for the round would be 10-10.
    http://everything2.com/title/Boxing+scoring
     
  4. toughy82

    toughy82 Active Member Full Member

    1,058
    0
    Nov 8, 2008
    Dude....where did you get this ****? There's no 9-9, we've been round and round about it. 10 point MUST
     
  5. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,388
    2
    Mar 14, 2010
    I don't know what website you got your information from but please go to an official site and post information and you will see that I am right. btw that post is from 2001
     
  6. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,674
    3
    Jan 1, 2009
    please give a source. "i read it on ESB" is not a source.
     
  7. LOLOLOLOL :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Whatever website you copied that from FAILS.

    When a fighter is knocked down but dominates the rest of the round, its scored 10-9 against that fighter.

    The ONLY way a 9-9 round is scored is when the winner of the round is docked a point for FOULING. Thats it. Case closed.

    And on the original question... 10-8 Pacquiao. Cotto did not do enough to warrent a 10-9.
     
  8. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,366
    1
    Jan 24, 2009
    It's 10-9 round for me, because Cotto controlled the action bar the knockdown. Pac wins the round because of that, but because he was losing the round clearly you can't make him a two point winner.

    It certainly isn't 9-9. There was a thread about this like a year ago or something, covering that it was unfair, but the fact is, besides a stoppage, scoring a knock down is the single best thing you can do in a round.
     
  9. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,674
    3
    Jan 1, 2009
    I am aware of the scoring explanation you give, but the point of this thread is to clear it up once and for all. And to do this we need actual quotes from reputable sources, not :rofl:rofl:rofl emoticons and opinions.

    Anybody got access to any FACTS?
     
  10. What you are saying is that I'm not giving facts and you are. Since you are the thread starter... I think the burden of proof is on YOU, not me. The website you got that from isn't reputable.

    I'll explain it like this though. It's called the "10 point must system" because the winner of the round must receive 10 points. The ONLY exception is point deductions.

    Also, I challenge you to find a score card for any fight at all, where the winner of a round was given less than 10 points WITHOUT a foul resulting in a point deduction.
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

    37,732
    1
    Apr 19, 2007
  12. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

    5,899
    0
    Dec 8, 2009
    To get even out a 10/8 KD round you REALLY need show you are winning. Any doubt will always lead back to 10/8. Judges will always give the benefit of the doubt to the winning boxer.

    Basically, he MIGHT have done enough. But not CLEARLY enough to counter the 10/8 KD scoring.
     
  13. OK here's an example of the situation in question.

    Round 6 of Calvin Brock vs. Jameel McCline. Early in the round McCline knocked Brock down with a left hook to the side of the head. For the entire rest of the round Brock dominated, he even had McCline hurt toward the end.

    The round was scored 10-9 for McCline, as Brock was able to regain the point he lost from the knockdown by dominating the rest of the round.

    The fact is, once a fighter is knocked down, he automatically loses the round (I.E. the other fighter gets 10 points.) UNLESS, he knocks the other fighter down...which puts them on equal ground again...meaning either one can get 10 points.
     
  14. And yet according to the poll, 5 of you (as of this posting) still don't know how to score a boxing match.
     
  15. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

    2,523
    1
    Oct 27, 2009
    God, the first 3 or 4 rounds of this fight were classics. Until Manny got the second knockdown and took over, that is.