Should same day weight-ins be brought back ?

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  1. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To stop frauds like Saul Alvarez, Julio Chavez Jr., Keith Thurman etc that dehydrate & than drink tons of water to come in at 10-20 pounds over the weight class limit they are fighting in.
     
  2. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who are some examples of non fraudulent active boxers who have never rehydrated to a level you would consider unacceptable?
     
  4. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm in favour of them, in theory. I think they'd only succeed in making fighters less safe and able in the ring though - I reckon fighters would still be rehydrating on the same day, which is dangerous.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    They all do that.

    There are few exceptions.
     
  6. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ideally not rehydrating at all would be ideal. But currently fighters are allowed too, so it's obvious they'll do it, otherwise they would be at a disadvantage.

    It's the alphabet job to enforce these rules, not the trainers ...

    Some fighters that walk around fight weight, which mean they deserve respect: Gennady Golovkin, Bernard Hopkins Floyd Mayweather Jr., Wladimir Klitschko ( he's a HW tho, so it doesn't really matter ... ) they stay close to their fight night weight except on some rare occasions ( mistakes happens, so I can understand you come in overweight for a fight or two in your career, but every fight ? ).
     
  7. Console Command

    Console Command Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They stopped doing same day weight-in because Eddie Mustapha Muhammad came in overweight for a light-heavyweight unification match with Michael Spinks from what I've read.

    Spinks said he didn't give a **** about the fight and wouldn't fight due to him having to make an effort to make weight and the other guy didn't give a single **** about it, when asked if he would be fine with a non-title bout than, he said no.

    Back than it was a superfight kind of thing, so to not let down fans etc they removed same day weights-ins so this doesn't happen again.

    I think Spinks was right tho.
     
  8. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But what is an acceptable amount to rehydrate for you? Give it to me as a % above the weight class limit so that we can normalize it across weigh classes. GGG has rehydrated 13 lbs before which is about a 7.5% rehydration above the MW limit. Floyd has rehydrated 9.5 lbs which was 6.8% above the SFW limit where he was fighting at the time. By way of contrast, on the other thread you considered it unacceptable for a fighter to rehydrate to 152 for a JWW fight which is a 7.9% rehydration above the JWW limit.
     
  9. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    5lbs limit. Thatll knock all this bs off when it comes to guys rehydrating. Its part of whats absolutely killing this sport. I think its much healthier for fighters to fight near their natural weight. is it a coincidence that manny and floyd look so good at their age? Its because they dont fight too far from their natural weight.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Which fights are you claiming those in-ring weights for Golovkin and Floyd?
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No problem with that :thumbsup

    I just want to make sure the thread isn't about an agenda to slam some fighters while letting others off the hook for doing the same thing.

    I don't think a flat lb limit makes sense. 5 lbs means a lot more at 102 than it would at 168. My solution would be to either introduce a universal maximum rehydration % and weigh fighters before they step in the ring.

    Or you could simply make it a rule that fighters must weigh within the bounds of their weight class on fight night and weigh them before they step in the ring. So a fighter could not weigh 147 or above when he steps in the ring for a fight contested at 140. Anything from 136-146 would be acceptable. You'd obviously have to adjust this method for everything from light heavy and up.
     
  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkin 173 for Rubio. Floyd 139.5 for Vargas, 139 for Carlos Hernandez - both fights at 130.
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Basement Gym Boxing has a record of ALL fight night weights provided by HBO or Showtime since the 90s.
     
  14. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Weigh on fight day. Fight at the weight. Enough of this BS rehydration cr@p. Not all bodies are the same in that regard. It provides some a huge - no pun intended- advantage
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Mmk, I thought so.

    Was seeing if you were going to name something post-130. And I'd forgotten which Golovkin fight he weighed most in-ring for.