Should same day weight-ins be brought back ?

:nono I don't play around with facts

 

You know the difference between a "fact" and a "FACT!!!" then, eh?

Haha, that's a rarity around here.

 

Keep in mind that fighters are wearing all their gear during fight night unofficial weigh ins.

 

Okay but if that's universal practice then it's a non factor when comparing fighters.

 

That would make sense. But do some guys want to influence public opinion by knowing this and then wearing less clothes? You could take off your shoes. Take off your robe or shirt. Whatever.

 

Come on now.

 

There are a lot of dependent variables going on with same day unofficial weigh ins.

 

Alright man.

 

Know your dependent variables before you measure the independent variable.

 

No. Rehydrating doesn't make you a bigger opponent, just means you have more water weight.

 

Even if we assume that boxers try to manipulate fight night weights then how much do you think this could seriously impact the weight? Boxing shoes are very light as are shirts.

 

Good point. A couple pounds I guess. And rehydrating from 7 pounds to 10 pounds is a big difference.

 

2 things.

First, I don't think it makes sense to impose just a flat weight rehydration limit. If you said, "no boxer can rehydrate more than 8 lbs after the initial weigh-in" well that would basically be twice the weight to a straweight compared to a cruiser.

Second, take a closer look at the guys who you consider standard bearers for not rehydrating. GGG's last 3 fights he has rehydrated to 10, 13 and 10 lbs above the MW limit. In your initial post you said it was unacceptable to rehydrate 10-20 lbs and listed Keith Thurman as a chief offender. But Thurman has never been recorded entering the ring more than 9 lbs above the contracted weight. He was 160 for the Quintana fight, but that was a 152 lb catchweight.

As for Floyd, he has rehydrated very little above SFW (although he has seldom weighed-in on fight night since moving to WW). His highest recorded unofficial weight for a WW fight is 150. Highest recorded for a JWW fight is 145. Highest recordd for a LW fight is 140. However, in his first weight class he rehydrated to...7.5, 9, 6.5, 9.5, 6, 7 and 8 lbs above the SFW limit. That's an average rehydration of 7.6 lbs which is awfully close to the upper end of your acceptable 5-8 lb range. And a WW fighter who rehydrated the same percentage of his body weight relative to that 7.6 lbs at 130 would miss your 8 lb cutoff. Again, I would point to Thurman (who you listed as a fraud) but who has never been recorded entering the ring more than 9 lbs above the contracted weight while Floyd has entered both 9 and 9.5 lbs above in a much lower weight class!

I don't say all this to be an annoying mug, only to point out that it's dangerous to paint with a wide brush when ****yzing these things.

 

Both systems have their flaws. You only have to look at jockeys when they retire to see how good for your health making weight all the time is for you.