Should Sergey Kovalev ditch Main Events/HBO

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't like Hopkins. I think he is a dirty fighter who will pull all kinds of bs tactics in the ring. You like him? Great, I don't have a problem with it. Smear Hopkins? LMAO! How in the hell can you smear someone with Hopkins reputation? You seem like a cool brother. Don't get upset if someone doesn't see things the same way you do on a boxing message board. Lastly, I think the light-heavy weight champ challenging the welterweight champ is a bitchass move but something I would expect from Hopkins.
     
  2. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not yet.

    I'm still thinking about my options.
     
  3. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isn't Ward already managed by James Prince?
    Why would he want 2 managers?
     
  4. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymon is an advisor, but I think his real title should be Boxer Strategist. :yep

    He is not a manager but works along side managers and promoters (GBP).
     
  5. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So they didn't leave yo get a better deal?
     
  6. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should try to get a fight with Ward, at lhw. I think there would be very small chance that Hopkins would fight him at Showtime, Stevenson will not touch him no matter what. He might even though back to HBO just avoid it. Ward vs the Russian is the best fight. It's very close fight to call at 175.
     
  7. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, guys who dont respect BHop and refuse to play chess with him actually tend to win. Kovalev is the worst matchup for BHop.
     
  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    hopkins does feast on european stiffs.

    but kovalev is different, hes a wrecking machine.
     
  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    :good

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  10. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually, he is a promoter - did you see the copy of one of his contracts that ME filed as an exhibit in their lawsuit? An "advisor" that has complete and total control over all aspects of the fighters career.

    That being said, if he was actually a promoter per se - the contract was pretty reasonable. Honestly he should just get a promoters license, release everyone, and re-sign them to his promotional company. Most of the important fighters probably would sign with him.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    According to Ward, he wants to fight Vladimir Klitschko and that he will knock Vlad out in the first or second round in a mismatch................LOL! Vlad will smash Ward like an ant..............
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  13. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Poor Bute, he would get killed :rofl
     
  14. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Kinda this. By the time his HBO contract is done BHop should be on the verge of retirement. Kovalev is by far the youngest of the strap holders at 30 - Stevenson may not have many miles on the clock, fightwise, but is 36 nonetheless.

    Dawson may still be a name, but possibly not for long. Pascal would be a nice fight, but if he won't fight Kovalev now why assume that he would with SHO or Haymon?

    The thing is the current LHW pick is pretty slim anyway whichever side you're on - take Hopkins outta the equation in a year or so and I think SHO will also be scraping the barrel for opponents at 175.
     
  15. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Hmmm...I'm not sure it's so simple - a promoter has legal responsibility to maximise profits for their shareholders, a manager has fiduciary duty towards their fighters. Haymon (apparently) has neither - with Stevenson for example, we saw him acting as both a manager (Stevenson was already contracted to GYM as his promoter) and promoter, negotiating - or at least passing offfers along from both GBP and SHO.

    Actually the Stevnson coup has far larger ramifications that just the loss of the Kovalev fight - with GYMs biggest star Stevenson allied with SHO, his de jure promoter GYM has little choice but to follow Haymons lead also - and put their main events on SHO - taking with them most of the canadian market share and a number of good fighters and top prospects.

    Haymons current role allows him access to fighters from other promotions which wouldn't be afforded as either manager or promoter. The exclusive contract you mention would seem to put him both roles simultaneously - and I'm not sure the power that affords SHO / Schaeffer / Haymon is something they'd be willing to (voluntarily) give up. As shown by the above example Haymons dual role allows him to act as a kinda secret (or at least slightly dodgy) weapon in the war for SHO to imcrease its market share. As a promoter he could lure a fighter onto SHO, as an 'advisor' he can steal a whole promotion from HBO.

    Furthermore, SHO don't need another promoter right now - they already have one that works exclusively with them, though if Oscar were to start causing problems, I'm confident they'd form a new company or perhaps pass the Haymon fighters on to TMT with Schaeffer at the helm.