Should Shane Mosley vs Floyd Mayweather be for the ESB World Welterweight Title?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by robpalmer135, Apr 19, 2010.


  1. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Surely you just move to the next fight then in Cotto vs Margo?

    Either way it still ends up with Mosley being the man at welterweight.
     
  2. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's how the Ring do it iirc.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    if what i remember is correct, pac(#1) and barrera(#3) at 130 then was not for the ring title. it was only for the championship when pac fought marquez who is #2 that time.
     
  4. TommyV

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    147:

    #1 Mosley
    #2 Mayweather
    #3 Pacquiao

    :smoke

    Not the same P4P, but Pacquiao's only relevant 147 win technically is Clottey, which is, well, not that relevant at all.
     
  5. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've just had a look and they've got the rules up on their site.

    Fighters recognized as champions by The Ring are rated at the top of their division, with the top 10 contenders listed below.

    Championship vacancies can be filled by winning a box-off between The Ring's number-one and number-two contenders, or, in certain instances, a box-off between our number-one and number-three contenders.

    The only three occasions when a fighter will lose his championship status are when he retires, moves to another weight division, or is defeated in a championship bout.

    The Ring Ratings are compiled by the magazine's editorial board, with the participation of The Ring Ratings Panel of boxing journalists from around the world.

    I've no idea what those certain instances are.:huh
     
  6. ciscobox

    ciscobox ..ı|ı...ı|ı.. Full Member

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    yeah, i kinda agree. mosley is still the man at welterweight
     
  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    The instances are basically whatever they want them to be. In the past they have referred all decisions to their rankings panel and taken a vote - eg. Calzaghe (no 1) vs Lacy (no 3) was for the title because the panel felt that Calzaghe was clear number one and Lacy was on a similar level to the number two Kessler. Cotto (no 1) vs Margarito (no 3) was not sanctioned for the Ring title largely because Margarito had lost within the previous year to the number two fighter Paul Williams.

    However the Ring then circumvented the whole process with Klitschko (no 1) vs Chagaev (no 3) where the editor just decided off his own back to make the fight for the Ring title without reference to the panel and despite the lack of any serious argument that Chagaev would be on the same level as Vitali who was number 2. So they basically do whatever they like.
     
  8. robpalmer135

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    ESB is not the ring.

    I agree Mosley is number 1 at Welterweight, but he hasnt had a fight for 17 months so you cant rank him there.

    If he beats Mayweather he is the man, if Mayweather beats him, Floyd is the man.
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Definitely not. Ratings are really ****ed up these days. Imo Mayweather should be unranked right now at 147, his only fight there in ages has been against a guy who never fought there before. I'm not saying he's not the best fighter in the world, don't get this **** twisted. But to say this is for the welterweight chapionship is ****ed up, lets keep boxing right.
     
  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    surley by beating Mosley he is the best thought right?
     
  11. teeto

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    I think he's the best already. But what i'm saying is purely in terms of rankings. Rankings must be consistent, not changed for particular fighters.
     
  12. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    What is with your guys' obsession with all these bull**** titles being on the line. This fight is to decide who is the best 47er in the world, no titles needed.
     
  13. bluenoseshf

    bluenoseshf Active Member Full Member

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    It should be but the question is will that tight ******* Mayweather pay the sanctioning fee? :deal
     
  14. teeto

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    Nobody's obsessed, just answering the question.
     
  15. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    No ESB is obsessed with this nonsense. The first story on the home page is how the WBA strap won't be on the line. There is about 3 other threads discussing what titles are going to be on the line, etc. Who cares? Why is it even a question? The winner of Mayweather/Mosley is going to be the best welterweight in the world, no fake championships needed. Besides, everyone knows Floyd is the lineal 147 champ.