Should something be done to stop weight cutting before weigh-ins?

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  1. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    Was watching a documentary on BBC last night, where this fighter lost 7kg of weight in 24 hours to make weight for his fight. They completely dehydrate themselves, in saunas, baths etc lose all the weight by almost killing themselves, then rehydrate themselves as soon as the weigh-in is over to go back to their normal body weight for fight night.

    Well, we all knew this practice goes on, was just interesting seeing it in a documentary.

    4 MMA fighters have lost their lives using this method, in MMA they have less weight categories.

    So, should it be stopped, and if so how?

    I'm thinking maybe multiple weigh-ins in the lead up to a fight to make this practice almost impossible.

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  2. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    There should be a mandatory rehydration limit and health check before each weigh in. If a fighter is seen to be dangerously dehydrated the fight needs to be called off. That's in an ideal world, though.

    Reality is that nothing is going to happen. Boxing is an extreme sport and attracts extreme personalities, at all levels of the game.
     
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  3. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Floyd was severely dehydrated and still approved for combat.
     
  4. Northadox

    Northadox Active Member Full Member

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    As far as I'm aware, MMA cuts are a lot worse because they don't have as many weight classes as boxing

    Nobody will be the first to stop weight cutting because you're automatically at a disadvantage. If you're walking round 160 but can make welterweight, why wouldn't you cut and get the size advantage?
     
  5. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, this is why I feel it needs some heavy regulation. If everyone is doing it, no one is really gaining an advantage, so they're all putting themselves and their bodies through hell for nothing. Or it is the guy who is willing to go to the most extreme lengths to cut weight who will have a big size advantage during the fight.

    And apart from anything else, they are abusing the spirit of the law that the weight divisions were originally intended for.

    They need to be saved from themselves, and I think it will make fights fairer too.
     
  6. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Ideally they should walk into the ring, get weighed and then fight. It won't necessarily solve the problem but I don't think boxers would be stupid enough to weight drain and then fight immediately.
     
  7. MIW

    MIW Member Full Member

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    what would be the punishment for being over weight?

    im thinking cancelling the fight would be too anti business, but maybe else like a massive fine or something.
     
  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think it does need to come into play. I feel that the sizes of fighters now compared to even 10 years ago has increased notably.
    You'd have to come up with a rule that's actually impossible to find loopholes with.
     
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  9. kevinreid001

    kevinreid001 Punchdrunk101 Full Member

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    . Great vid puts a lot perspective how can not be totally shattered going into the. Fight. Prob only good reason have more weight classes in boxing compared to mma
     
  10. JeremyCorbyn

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    Trouble is, if a guy has his purse on the line, even if it only a relatively small amount of money, like a few thousand which might mean the world to them, then I think some might be stupid enough to cut weight on the day of the fight.

    Then it becomes even more dangerous.
     
  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Day of fight weigh in solves it
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    1. They don't all do it.
    2. They don't all do it equally.

    This plus multiple belts is why Adrien Broner was a 4 weight world champion.

    A few guys like Pacquiao were so good that they effectively stopped cutting weight and were fighting guys who had about twenty pounds of weight and an inch or two of height advantage against them. Whitaker, Toney, and Holyfield routinely fought guys with noticeable size and weight advantages over them. Roman Gonzalez is doing that now in his fourth weight class and looking a mite undersized.

    And just as there are guys who are enormous for their weight class: Jarrett Hurd or Demetrius Andrade at super welterweight, Jamie McDonell at bantamweight, etc there are guys who are small for the weight who bulked up to make it there: Yuriorkis Gamboa or Dejan Zlaticanin at lightweight. Weight cutting made Gamboa's fight with Terence Crawford and Zlaticanin's fight with Mikey Garcia possible.

    I also doubt that the 5'4" Guillermo Rigondeaux has as much trouble getting down to super bantamweight as some of the 5'8"- 5'9" guys in his division.

    There is no way that #9 ranked Khurtsidze at 5'4" is cutting the same amount to make middleweight as #4 ranked Jacobs at 6'.
     
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's why I laugh when posters accuse or berate one or two particular fighters for "draining." They are clueless. Literally 99% of non-HW's "drain."
     
  14. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, definitely multiple weigh-ins. As unfair as it is that one guy often has a big size advantage, same day weigh-ins alone is not a solution. Boxers would still cut weight, only because they wouldn't have a full day to safely do so they would enter in bad condition, and there could and would be serious injuries. Multiple weigh-ins would make sure boxers are fighting at their natural weight. Being required to make the divisional limit one month, one week, three days, one day before and day of the fight. In fact if they made the previous weigh-ins they wouldn't be big enough to dehydrate and make an artificially low weight then rehydrate fight night, so a day of weigh-in wouldn't be necessary.
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One hundred percent correct.