Wand thinks the scoring system should change: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVhB9vNNZQQ&feature=player_embedded#at=106
What the UFc should take from Pride is the Royce V Sakuraba no time limit match for very title matches. I wasn't satisfied after the Machida V Shogun fight, there nedded to be another round of two to sort out who actually won. Personally I don't think there should be 7 rounds in a title fight, not because I think the fighters should fight for 35 minutes, more because if they think they have to fight for that long they will think "I have to finish this fight now" and go for the finish.
Maybe but... you can defend yourself better in boxing you can take an 8 count, stand back and not get taken down, pretend to get hit by a low blow etc, if your tired in MMA you can't really hide anywhere.
I see what you are saying but I disagree. A boxer has to keep avoiding concussive blows. A MMA can do almost everything he a boxer can to survive plus more i.e. take the fight to the ground, wrap them up in closed guard etc 5min rounds are incredibly long for a full on fight. I think 25 mins is enough. I wouldn't want to see the game slow down. Fighters will eventually get too tired and sloppy if they start off fights at a decent pace.
I prefer the PRIDE scoring parameters myself. However, why bother adopting them? The BOXING judges appointed by the athletic commisions would just misinterpret them like they do with the current MMA rules/scoring criteron.
No it should be judge round by round but get better judges not blind mice like those 3 that were judging rua-machida fight.
Bloodthirsty? In the US elbows are legal, elbows pretty much just cause cuts almost never KO anybody and are NOT legal in Japan. I hate the fact that fights can be ended because some shitty wrestler rubs his elbow on someones face causing a cut and the fight gets stopped. Atleast a boot to the head KO's someone.
the elbow thing was always a funny point. what is their reasoning behind it? seriously though, stomping the head etc is brutal. guys like wanderlei getting yellow cards for lack of action. the cards mean their pay gets docked. it was certainly geered to a more violent approach. personally i love elbows.
Good point, it seems no matter what system implies judges will see the fight the way they see it. Cecil Peoples basically came up with his own scoring sysyem anyhow I doubt any changes could realistically help.
I would have to actually have to watch and score a few fights this way before I'd advocate it, but I've been wondering about a new system. What if you have one judge score only the striking, on a 10 point basis? You have a second judge score only the grappling, with a set of rules similar to combat sambo: http://www.tournament.info/madoc/rules/Sambo_Combat_Rules.pdf You have a 3rd judge score the fight the way it is now. Then you find a way to total the points. Maybe by simply adding them together if one area doesn't become too dominate. I realize this takes away the point of having 3 judges scoring the same criteria, which is getting the best 2 out of 3 opinions.
but what if 90% of the fight is standing or grappling? would one more count then the other? I think you have to keep it as simple as possible for the fans and the judges. And like a lot of people have said the system doesn't matter if the judges don't follow it anyhow. ref to Cecil Peoples.
They should train and use pure MMA judges not old boxing judges who have boxing in thier DNA and will allways look at the boxing aspects first. When ex-fighters start working as judges I things will start to improve..imo
Using the Pride system makes it much easier for a judge to get it horribly wrong or even dirty. Round by round each judge has to make 3 or 5 public decisions where with the pride system they just have to make one, it makes it much easier to be wrong, lazy, or crooked because they only have to justify one choice without breaking it down.