Should there be a 200-220 division?

On-topic: No. Slightly off topic- does anyone actually believe these fitness gurus who say that 220 for someone who's over six foot is 'obese.'

 

I suggested 250, but 240 would be better. Make Klitschko suck off a few lbs to even the playing field. If middleweights routinely cut down from about 180 there's no reason Fury at 6'9" but packing a spare tire can't lose what's a lesser % of his weight. So if they can't cut a few lbs we're banning Klitschko, Lennox when he wasn't in his best shape, especially sideshows like Arreola, late James Toney. I sure wouldn't miss Valuev. This is athletic competition, not whale harpooning.

 

In 90% of cases, for sure a six foot man weighing 220 is obese. Six feet is about average, 220 lbs is plenty over average weight. R u serious... or just American??

 

That could be a good solution. But last thing HW division is another weight class that'd reduce the number of skillful HWs.

 

American atsch Obese, really? That means it interferes with your health. Also, there's nothing average about being six foot tall in my generation.

 

There should be a "Dustin Nichols" weight class as well.

 

Toney was never near 250..you listed less than 3 fighters anyway.Its not if you don't miss Valuev or not,you cannot ban someone from making a living based on genetics or height..It doesn't make sense.:-(

 

I don't think you guys get it..there is all but ONE guy that fights around 210 and that's Cunningham....EVERYONE in the top 20 are no where near even 210..they are above 220 and average around 240 pounds!Who are you reducing?One guy?:-(

 

The weight structure is out dated!Much like the HW limit and class..read the above comment!The HW class is useless where its at you have a bracket of 200 to 220 that would be utilized not wasted.

 

Well, when you're right, you're right. Can Cunningham fight at LHW? My entire reasoning was that there are too many divisions already.

 

Why? Historically small men have been able to beat larger ones.

225lb Mike Tyson destroyed 250lb men.

 

LOL what?

David Haye was 6''1 and he wasn't obese at 220lb. Mike Tyson was 216lbs in his prime and he was 5''10, built like a tank.

The average height for a man is 5''9 and the average height for a H.W boxer is 6''2.

 

Your examples make my point rather than disprove it. David Haye was a natural cruiserweight who bulked up to heavyweight. And for his 6 fights since he moved to heavy he was 210 three times, and 215, 217, and 222. I accept Tyson was naturally thick and muscular, but he's obviously not an average body type for his height, and is the 10% I mentioned.

Most boxers who are 6 feet tall are not heavyweights. Kovalev, Beterbiev, Hopkins, Dawson, Ward, Degale, Groves, Martin Murray to only mention a few current fighters. 6 foot tall heavyweights are almost all less than 220, and if they're more than 220 they've bulked or fattened up to that weight. The one top heavyweight who is 6' 2" and 220 is Povetkin, and with those love handles it's pretty apparent he's not average weight for his height. Glazkov I see is 6' 3" and about 220, and he's probably added 5-10 lbs to pack more power. A man who's a healthy 220 is taller than 6'2".

6 foot 2 tennis players or marathon runners are almost all well under 200 lbs, and they're not freakishly skinny, but close to average, healthy weight. According to the BMI index (which is what you basically referred to) 220 lbs at 6 feet for almost all men is not just overweight but obese, though just.
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm

 

From my above post, only a small percentage of men are a healthy 220 lbs or more. Those heavyweight boxers that are a healthy 220 lbs or more are huge men, 6'5" plus. That's why amateur boxing has a super heavyweight division. As even those guys are close enough to 240, I say make them get down to 240 if they want an advantage over 200-220 lb men. I'm half joking when I suggest that, but only half because I'd love to weed out the huge heavyweights who can't move or muster combinations and think it would make for more exciting and competitive heavyweight fights.

 

Take "advantage" of 220 pound men? Look, the heavyweight champion is supposed to be able to beat every man IN THE WORLD ... not guys who weigh between 200 and 220.

David Haye, for the all the negativity he gets, beat a guy who outweighed by 100 pounds and was nearly a foot taller to take the WBA belt.

You can count all the "great" fighters who weighed 240 and over on one hand.

Lewis, the Klitschkos, Foreman. Done. Bowe wasn't even any good once he got up around 240.

We're coming out of an era when three big men (Lewis and the Klitschkos) dominated.

There aren't any 250-pounders coming up to replace them.

The biggest heavyweight besides them is Deontay Wilder, and he's made 220.

If they made a "super heavyweight division," it would destroy what has always made the heavyweight division different than all the others ... that you have to be able to beat any man regardless of how big he or heavy he is ... not just guys who weigh anywhere within four or five pounds of you.

If you want to see Andy Ruiz with a belt, and David Tua and Frans Botha making comebacks, create a super heavyweight division. Because it won't be populated by GIANTS, it'll be populated by short, lazy fat guys.

You can count the excellent giants on one hand.