Should there be a 200-220 division?

explain to me why in the hell we need another Division? We have too many as it is. We need to eliminate 5 or 6 of the current divisions. This is what has hurt Boxing along with ridiculous 'catch weight' fights. There are 18 Divisions pick one and fight at the division limit.

 

Because, apparently, Brian Minto hasn't been able to snag a belt. :roll:

Somebody needs to sit Brian Minto down and explain to him that the reason he hasn't become heavyweight champion isn't due to the fact that everyone else in the division is a GIANT.

It's because he is a journeyman at best.

 

You realize the point is no one is even 210 right?

And by your logic not just that they have to be Mike Tyson?Who did not destroy 250 pound men ...he LOST to them,even out of prime he Never fought them.atsch

 

No too many divisions as is.

 

Cunninhham could fight where hes at,thats what the post is,another hw division ,anything below can be changed!


To many divisions isnt the HW pictures problem,not fixing it is however!:nono


Its mind boggling even with the statistic I laid out of who is under 220 that this is even debatable and all the posters here are that out of touch?

 

You do realize that fury has the best footwork right now right?Hes the biggest Hw to ever fight for the title with actual skill.

You have yet to show ALL these guys who are fat over 250?

 

Somebody better tell Anthony Joshua ,hes around 240 right now!


P.s Bowe was never near 240 at his peak! He was slightly under 230,and that's STILL a super heavyweight.And wilder came in at 230 for his first title defense..at 220 he couldn't knock Stiverne out!

 

I didn't say anything about the obesity levels of fighters over 250. I said most 250 lb heavyweights have an unfair advantage over 200-220 lb heavyweights, especially as they're usually 6'4" or more.

What I insisted is that the guy who thinks someone 220 lbs at 6 feet tall isn't obese is wrong. And that almost everyone who is 220 at 6'2" is significantly overweight. I checked the weights of top heavyweights who are 6'2" or less and their BMI: and Mike Perez, Takam, Stiverne, Chagaev, Chisora are obese, while Povetkin and Tarver are nearly obese. I would question the convention of the BMI if the waistlines of those fighters doesn't make it obvious.

 

To get back to the topic: instead of a 220 lb division 220 lb fighters should just dehydrate down to cruiserweight! Cruiserweights now barely cut down to make weight, as most fighters in every weight class below them do. Welterweights often cut down and rehydrate back up to 160, so it shouldn't take too much for small heavyweights to suck back a similar % of their weight to make 200 lbs. Problem solved, loaded cruiserweight division.

 

If they set the CW limit to 210 as I previously suggested it will make a difference. It's true most heavyweights are over 240-250 but guys under 230lbs can fight in cruiserweight since 230 is their fight night weight because they don't dehydrate for the weigh-in like boxers from other weight divisions do - they can easily make 210. In that case guys like Glazkov, Cunningham etc can compete in CW which they have no place in HW anyway. They are just populating the division. They can fight the likes of Kyudrashov, Gvozdyk, Usyk, Glowacki, Lebedev etc all great match ups.

There are a lot of big heavy weight prospects like Gerald Washington, Charles Martin, Joseph Parker, Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte etc and we should see them more often.

 

I agree. I think more fighters fighting at cruiser, whether the weight's increased to 210 or not, would be better for both divisions. 200-220 lb boxers shouldn't have to fight 240+ opponents. Not only is it not fair for them, it doesn't produce competitive, exciting fights. I'd be happy to miss out on an atg type small heavyweight slaying giants if it meant more consistently better matchups at cruiser and heavyweight.

 

Here's the best way to change weight divisions: Simply go the amateur weight classes. But the 2000 weights, before they eliminated light middle and feather. And up 200 to 210, and call it cruiser and 210+ heavy, because not calling the top division heavyweight is just stupid. I've seen hundreds of proposals to reduce weight divisions before, with most especially not fair to the lower weights. This I think is perfect.

Heavyweight: 210+
Cruiserweight: 210
Light heavyweight: 178
Middleweight: 165
Light Middleweight: 156
Welterweight: 147
Light Welterweight: 139
Lightweight: 132
Featherweight: 125
Bantamweight: 119
Flyweight: 112
Light Flyweight: 106

 

I agree with the 210, but the red section doesn't work. 6-7lbs is a huge leap down there.

 

He broke his right hand when he dropped Stiverne. That's why he didn't finish him. Coming in at 220 didn't cause his hand to break or play in a role in him not getting a KO.

 

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