Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You don't even up a fight by being the draw, and asking the 147 lb champ to come in at 143 to put his title on the line. Fighters care about their titles even if the fans don't. Floyd is a small guy who came from 130 lbs, and he can make 144.
     
  2. NALLEGE

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    Bonkers fruit candy lol. I don't talk about fans or fighters balls, I talk about my own balls.
     
  3. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac had to fight to avoid paying huge penalty. I do not have a footage but I saw the fight on tv. Pac was dehydrated and it surely affected his performance. I could not recall Pac throwing his left straight in that fight, all he did was job and run for the whole fight and winced in pain at every shot thrown him by Singsurat until he dropped in the 3rd rd. I never thought Pac could recover from that devastating loss.
     
  4. onepunch.net

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    yeah, uh huh. maybe a church in a nativity scene, or a train set or something......
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    As sincere as this post reads, I still need to see the fight myself.
     
  6. Kurdapyo

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    You are thinking about Cotto. What about a former flyweight Pac when you force him to jump at 147 which is Cotto's comfort zone. Isn't he less than 100% on this weight? Pac's ideal weight is actually 135-140. Tell me, who has a better condition at 147? Pac or Cotto? Had Cotto fought dela Hoya at 147, Oscar would not have lasted 4 rounds.
     
  7. NALLEGE

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    Dlh might have knocked Cotto out. Pac is a super gifted fighter, and we need to see him in a risky fight. He has not been in a risky fight yet with a bigger man yet imo.
     
  8. eze

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: Former flyweight

    Floyd weighed the same as Pac at the same age. Why dont you care about the weight then?

    If Pac doesn't want to fight Cotto at a fair weight then dont fight him.

    DLH was drained as **** at 147 thats the reason why Manny beat him.
     
  9. Kurdapyo

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    So, you don't find undue advantage for a natural welter Cotto if they fight at 147 against Pac who a year ago was fighting Diaz at 135? Come on, you must really love Pac getting killed at 147 against Cotto who has been fighting for about 3 years as welter against the likes of Margarito, Mosley, Judah, etc. As Roach said Pacquiao may be a brave fighter but not stupid.

    I still go for a catchweight at 143, though.
     
  10. kalunya5964

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    Diaz, the inferior was the champ at a higher division, it was a just probing fight for Pac but it so happened that Pac dominated him. ODLH fight was for the money, Pac would not fight him if not for the insane pay! Almost everyone thought Pac was crazy to fight Oscar including many of his fans and most experts did not give him a chance against Oscar. Nobody said Hatton was done until Pac defeated him. Pac isn't not above criticism, nobody is, but to criticize him for something he has not done yet is absurd to say the least.
     
  11. eraser122

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    Pac seemingly grew to his current weight long after Mayweather did even though they both weighed at 106 at 16 (from then till now, Mayweather grew first while Pac stayed at lower weights albeit that may have been a bad decision by Pacquiao), so Pac's not fully accustomed to the 140s region yet (the DLH fight didn't help him at all for this, and Pac/Hatton was too short). Also, Pac's got a rather weird frame in that a lot of his weight is in the leg area, which actually looks out of proportion compared to his upper body.
     
  12. Powerman55

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    Absolutely no problem at all. It's the bloating to 160 when you are fighting in the WW I have a problem with.
     
  13. Kurdapyo

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    He was a former flyweight. Check BoxRec if you have some doubts, Floyd and Manny have the same weight at the same age? Specifically, how old were they then? How about Cotto and Manny? Are they of the same weight at a certain age? Although I doubt about what you said about Manny and Floyd having the same weight at a certain, I don't think you can compare Manny and Cotto on equal footing.

    Whether DLH was drained is immaterial. My point is Cotto will brutalize Oscar more than what manny did if he and dle Hoya fought at 147. You cannot therefore say they (Manny and Cotto) are on even terms.
     
  14. Powerman55

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    Shall I put it simply for you:
    Advantage to Pac: 140
    Advantage to Cotto: 147
    In the middle: 143.5

    SO as you see fair would be to have the fight at 143.5 BANG in the middle of the weights. BUT Manny Pacquaio is willing to fight Cotto at 145. Only 2 pounds below Cotto's best weight. And 5 pounds above Pac's. If you put your hatred of *******s (as you seem to hate *******s rather than Pac himself) to one side just for a second don't you think this is an advantage for Cotto NOT Pac?

    Pac is giving the advantage to Cotto and still getting crucified.
     
  15. kalunya5964

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    I don't know if it's in the youtube, there's a lot of Pac vids there. Pac was really pittiful in that fight. The weight drained ODLH did better as he vainly tried to put up a fight for eight rounds.