Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

And there it is.

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Cotto proposing the weight has nothing to do with anything I said.


Up to 147 is WW. UP TO 147.


UP TO 145 is not. It's a catchweight like you said.

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Of course, the limit is not 145, it's 147. Did I say it's 145? Link?
The thread title is about catchweight in a Pac Cotto fight, right? Cotto proposed 145, right?

 

What have you been arguing about for the past like 10 pages?

If really don't get what I was pointing out.


Then.... :rofl

 

Onepunch is claiming that title fights should only be done at the weight limit of 147. He found out thru the material he posted he was wrong because title fight could be held "up to 147" (or within the range of 141 to 147). Therefore, title fight at agreed catchweight of 145 (as proposed by Cotto) is possible. Understand?

 

How can onepunch claim something he thinks SHOULD happen?

He thinks title fights SHOULD happen at 147 and not at any catchweights.

he brought up that title fights at WW, fighters can weigh up to 147.

What he's been saying and I've been saying that at 145, Cotto nor Pac is allowed to weigh up to 147. Only to 145, thus if you see it how we see it, it's not a WW weight fight anymore.

It's a catchweight (like you called it) under the WW limit.

 

He thinks that's what should happen but that's not what the rules say.

Here is what he posted re title fights:

Originally Posted by onepunch.net

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this is from the WBO rules for title fights........

WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests Page 6 of 35
Effective for Championships Contested on or after November 11, 2008

Jr. Lightweight
Up to 130 lbs or 58.97 kgs.
Lightweight
Up to 135 lbs or 61.24 kgs.
Jr. Welterweight
Up to 140 lbs or 63.50 kgs.
Welterweight

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Yup again. Up to 147. This is no longer up to 147.

Meaning the fighter can weigh between 141-147 for a WW fight.

 

A fighter can weigh between 141 - 147 for a WW fight.

They can choose to come in at anywhere between those weights.

It is perfectly legitimate then for both fighters to come in at 145, and for them to make an agreement between themselves to do this.

Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

 

They can choose to come in at any weight between 141-147

When it's stuck at 145, they no longer get that.


Anyway, why are we arguing, Pac wants it at 143 to drain Cotto.

 

Yes, but when there is an agreement between the two fighters for catchweight in between 141-147, like for example 145, title fights are okay. 1Punch insisted that title fights can be held only at the weight limit of 147 which is not true.

141 - title fight
142 title fight
143 title fight
144 title fight
145 title fight
146 title fight
147 title fight
148 no title fight

 

merci senor. they do not understand the concept of range, contracts etc.

if pac and cotto agree to 145, they :|:|:|:|:| but they :happy:happy:happy:happy for pbf-jmm.

joking aside, pretty simple concept. i too am perplexed why these morons can't grasp a simple concept.

 

How about maybe, Pac's really more comfortable at 140, and he's thinking if the 147 champ would want to have a catchweight fight at 143-145?

If the 147 champ says "no, too low for me, sorry.", then it's no.

It's not like he's being forced against his will to accept to fight at a weight that he cant reach anymore.

If he cant do it, he cant do it. No problem. End of story.

 

I'm not sure how two fighters agreeing to fight at a certain weight does not constitute a 'choice' on their part?

Are you confused and think Pacquiao is a mandatory contender for Cotto's belt? There's no compulsion on Cotto to take this fight. If he wants to fight at 145, as he suggested, and put his title on the line in a voluntary defence, that is him 'choosing' to do so.