Should there be tougher rules on moving promoters?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Suarez7, Oct 19, 2013.


  1. Suarez7

    Suarez7 Member Full Member

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    This Mcdonnell situation has really got me thinking, there should be tougher rules out there preventing Hearn from buying every boxer in the UK thats showing a little promise - Fact is Monopolies are bad for the consumer/boxing fan

    Besides that, the various fighters that have jumped ship over the past two years have done so relatively easily despite the threat of legal action from he who shall not be named, any idea where the legal action has got to?

    If we look at the facts the higher profile fighters who have moved over havent fared that well-

    Before jumping ship Brook was offered a title fight with K9 at 154 and declined it, hes still fighting a load of hand picked tomato cans, his career hasnt developed.

    Bellew was given a title opportunity against cleverly in his hometown and didnt win, anyone who thinks hes going over to canada and winning is deluded.

    Burns has looked awful since moving over, quite clear that he is a protected paper champion.

    Mitchell wont win a world title in a million years after being given the chance twice.

    If earn has two top prospects in a weight division theres no way he would match them together, the fan will suffer.
     
  2. Josephd86

    Josephd86 Active Member Full Member

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    The other key fact is Sky pay Hearn a decent sum of money. They expect so many shows a year and each card is stringently checked and the fighters vetted. The easiest way to make a fight is if you have a tie to a fighter. It's the exact same model as the football and the Prem is considered the best in world.
     
  3. davidh

    davidh Member Full Member

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    Mcdonnell signed with FW didn't he?
     
  4. BretN

    BretN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brook may not have fought for a world title yet but his profile has definitely improved under Eddie
     
  5. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Hearn's are doing to boxing what they did to darts and snooker. They are trying to buy up any decent fighter in Britain so they can have a monopoly.

    They are ruthless in their pursuit. Never forget the Hearn's come from the same sewer in the East End of London that Frank ****** does.
     
  6. Ringmaster

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    There has been a recent court ruling in America concerning Canelo's move from his old promoters to Golden Boy - problem is it will be only for punitive damages.

    It will be interesting to see if the courts in this country take a similar stance in regards of McDonnell.
     
  7. Josephd86

    Josephd86 Active Member Full Member

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    Agree there. He couldn't even sell out the Ponds Forge
     
  8. Makingweight

    Makingweight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like it or not SKY is the biggest platform for boxing exposure/ money wise in this country so the fighters are drawn to Matchroom it's a given on that front.

    Hobson made a terrible call putting that card on the same night as the Burns fight crazy decision going head-to head & putting the McDonnell/Ceja fight on Primetime PPV financial suicide.
     
  9. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In one of hardest sports in the world, who are we to rob a fighter of more money?
     
  10. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Surely we expect promoters to play fair with the fighters? Shouldn't we also expect the fighters to play fair with their promoters and stick to their contracts?
     
  11. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a fighter has done wrong by his contract, any Promoter worth their salt would soon have them in Court...

    Generally it is the Promoters with most of the power, not the fighter...
     
  12. Black_Rainbows

    Black_Rainbows Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That doesn't stop them "moving promoter" I don't think. I believe the promoter can only seek compensation?
     
  13. Ringmaster

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    I cannot believe I am reading some of the comments on this forum on this subject.

    Everyone on this forum knows how hard it is for all in boxing and that includes promoters, managers, trainers and fighters.

    For non TV promoters and managers they simply have to dig very deep into their pockets in the first part of a boxers career, their dream is their fighter makes it to championship level and maybe just maybe the TV executives sit up and take notice by giving them a TV contract.

    So what is basically happening on this thread and a couple of others, is posters think its alright for a promoter and manager to take a huge loss on a fighter in the first part of his career and then its perfectly fine for the fighter to be poached or tapped up by a TV promoter.

    if you think thats fine then you are supporting monoplies on the sport and then in the next breath you complain why there are sh it match ups.

    Wake up!!!!!
     
  14. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on the terms of the contract...
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually that is capitalism, and boxing does that rather well. And if capitalism cannot be brought down with what happened in 2007-2010, then little is going to change anytime soon. As I suspect you, like me is a member of the 'Developed World' we cannot get too preachy about it and expect people to take us seriously.