Should titles be allowed to be fought for at catchweights?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by demigawd, Jan 11, 2010.


  1. Lunny

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    I don't think so.

    I don't get why there's so much controversy over a couple of pounds difference. I can go for a **** and lose more than that!
     
  2. hagman1989

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    there already trimming all possible wight so your point is null and void
     
  3. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be sure, this isn't directed specifically at Manny - this is for all championship bouts. And I think there's an even broader question here - should boxers be allowed to contract elements that alter or amend the existing rules? For example, should Mayweather be allowed to require testing protocols that are different from the ones of the commission? Should Manny be allowed to require lower weight limits as a condition for fighting for his title? Should a boxer be allowed to require a same day weigh in instead of a day before weigh in (this hasn't happened to my knowledge, but how much of a stretch is it to imagine that being possible)?

    Again, it's a queston of precedent. Should there be limits on the types of things you can contract for in a sanctioned boxing match, particularly for a championship title?
     
  4. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    Hell no.

    If you want to fight at a catchweight by all means go ahead but to win a championship in a division you cant impose a max limit below the limit of that weight class.

    In that case why have weight classes.
     
  5. larrysmith

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    people keeps saying this 141-147 is ww..ok fine...but why tell the other man he cant weight 147???thats means ww is 141-144 in mannys world
     
  6. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    You're an idiot. Boxing is not a democracy. Rules are implemented by boxers, commissions, and sanctioning bodies. What people on a message board think about catchweights is irrelevant and even more of a waste of time than normal message board posting.
     
  7. Lunny

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    I realise this, my point was that I don't understand how 2 pounds can really make a difference inside the ring? Does weighing 2 pounds more really make a noticable difference?
     
  8. larrysmith

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    how do you agree with draining a fighter and then say a teaspoon of blood would weaken manny??
     
  9. crimson

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    Actually, most top boxers go beyond that. They dehydrate so much of their weight in order to make weigh in. That is why they have a hard time making weight. They go in to weigh-in and fight at the weight class that is not really their natural weight.

    If boxers stop abusing the dehydration maneuver, making weight in a particular class would not be a problem. But the reality is boxers walk around everyday at X weight, train at Y weight, dehydrate at Z weight.
    Other athletes can easily lose 2-5 pounds right now if you ask them because they are well hydrated but maintain in top shape. Boxers have taken it to the extreme.

    If Z and Y was the same (or at least extremely close), then this would not be a problem. Since extreme dehydration is such a common practice you have this bullsh!t where people are unable to take off 2-3 pounds even though it is within the legal weight limit.

    Boxers agree at the DEHYDRATED weight instead of their training weight - that is the problem.
     
  10. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unfair? how since both of them AGREE VOLUNTARILY to that catch-weight?

    If you think that 145lb catchweight was unfair for Cotto then how do
    you explain that this cathweight was PROPOSED BY COTTO HIMSELF?
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    hell no. that's the dumbest **** ever. how can person fight for a welterweight title yet not be allowed to weigh the welterweight limit? bull****. if pac makes clottey agree to a catchweight it's a bogus fight since clottey nearly kills himself to make 147 as it is.
     
  12. Stinky gloves

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    Unfair? how since both of them AGREE VOLUNTARILY to that catch-weight?

    If you think that 145lb catchweight was unfair for Cotto then how do
    you explain that this cathweight was PROPOSED BY COTTO HIMSELF?

    Unfair is when you agree to chatchweight then you cheat and come above that.
     
  13. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    we should get rid of them. you come in under the weight limit and over the diviosn below. get in shape and fight for the title. saying you should weigh the same as me is not your opponants problem.

    it's 3 x easier to put on a pound than to take away. clottey was gonna fight at 154 . the dude wieghed more than calzaghe on fight night. he isnt the one who should be worried about his weigth it's pac.

    terry norris was a pound over the welterweight limit for years same with ray robinson barely a lightmiddleweight in his middlweith days.


    restricting a fighters weigth is dangerous and counterproductive for what the weigth dvisions are for
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the weight in should be done in the locker room 1 hour before the fight, then no cheating with dehydration and then coming to the fight 20 lb heavier.
     
  15. Hermit

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    They have already expanded weight classes to way too many. What if Pac decides no fight unless it is at 142? I guess he wouldn't be able to impose this on a mandatory, but still....

    The orgs say the fight is contested between two weights. I don't think a title should be at stake if one side insists the full range is not in play.