Should titles be allowed to be fought for at catchweights?

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  1. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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  2. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I advise you to re-read my post. The question is should the sanctioning organization forbid private catchweight contracts between a champion and challenger for the champion's belt. The question has nothing to do with whether fans should be allowed to create their own rules.

    For further clarification on this or any other post, please feel free to ask
     
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  3. Stinky gloves

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    Is the saying is old then its definitely from Toney :lol:
     
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  4. jrhjoker

    jrhjoker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OF CLOTTEY is not going to REFUSE.HE NEEDS THAT MONEY:goodTHAT IS SOME PCUK UP **** THESE CATCHWEIGHT FIGHTS.
     
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  5. Stinky gloves

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    I believe there is no catchweight allowed if the fight is mandatory.
    Since its voluntary then the fighters states their own rules to some level .... and rightfully.
     
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  6. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    If it didn't make any difference, why would Manny ask for it?

    The fact is Lunny that for a fighter like Clottey (who finds it difficult to "Get down" to 147) getting down to 144 is going to be a struggle.
     
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  7. crimson

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    Like I said, the problem started with boxers agreeing to fights at the DEHYDRATED weight. So commissions and sanctioning bodies where forced to create new weight classes because promoters and boxers wanted certain fight (meaning $$$$) to happen.
    Sanction bodies agreed because they thought 17 champions are better than 7. :/

    And to be honest, with less classes you will actually see more catch weights as it would be hard to go up and down weight class.
     
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  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    No offence Stinky gloves but I disagree with you.

    The fact is that "weigh ins" were "put back" on the advice of medical experts.

    The current "Weigh in" protocol is far safer than the previous protocol and that can only be a good thing.
     
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  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    It's a voluntary defence, he can specify whatever criteria he wants. No different than a champion saying if you want to challenge for my belt you have to come to my country or fight in a certain size ring or accept a certain percentage of the purse.
     
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  10. jrhjoker

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  11. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah, but do you know who Pacquiao's mandatory is if he beats Clottey?

    Cotto

    And Cotto who would probably volunteer to step aside on the rematch.

    The mandatory after that? Antonin Decaire (who?), followed by Krzysztof Bienias (who???)

    How easy is it for a champion to change the weight limits for every fight, and then beat some random patsy like Decaire once a year at the real limit? The point stands - it essentially allows the boxer to create his own weight class and force fighters to fight in that weight class if they don't want to wait years to become a mandatory.

    Years is the difference between being prime and being shot.
     
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  12. jrhjoker

    jrhjoker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    THATS BULL****:patsch
     
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  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No it was actually completely true...
     
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  14. Abdullah

    Abdullah Boxing Junkie banned

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    Bob Arum said this fight is at 147 you base-heads. And no, there is nothing wrong with catch weights, if both fighters agree to it. Welterweight is anything above 140 through 147. It isn't a 1 lb. weight. I think if Pacman is staying at welter then he should fight at 147 and not at a catchweight. So I am glad that Arum said there is no catchweight.
     
    Abdullah, Jan 11, 2010
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  15. demigawd

    demigawd Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think there's a big difference between negotiating things like purse and ring size and circumventing the actual established weights. It's clearly against the rules to fight for a title above the limit. It should likewise be against the rules to *force* a title fight below the limit as well. I don't see how you can have one rule without the other.
     
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