Should Tyson Fury go down as the most hated boxer in history?

Sure, as a human being he is fine. Especially compared to the likes of Carlos Monzon, James Butler or Baldomir but fron a boxing fan pov he has become unlikeable extremely fast in the last few years.
Atleast Floyd still had fans and great boxing to back up his terrible behaviour and antics.
And its for no reason all in all, just cause he is scared of Usyk is he behaving this way.

 

People do realize Fury is having a Foreman comeback period in his career also in his 40's?

It will be almost identical to George. Taking punishment. Efficient. Slow feet....but a giant man who cannot be dented. He'll knock 2033's equivalent of Moorer into next week.

 

Most hated, nah. Fury isn't evil by any means. He may even be quite a good guy irl.

One of the most disappointing? Yes, for sure.

So many great fights he could have had and he ends his career fighting sideshows while looking like a beached whale. If Ngannou knocks his block off - and it's a possibility judging by the amount of training (little to none) that Fury has done - it would be a fitting end to the clown troupe that Fury has become.

 

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I wish there was a dislike button for posts.

 

It's not that chasing money is bad. But Fury has been lying about his intentions.

But more importantly, you celebrate a boxer for his income potential. You are not a boxing fan, mate. You are a celebrity/net worth nut hugger. You always brag about how much money Fury earns so it seems you value the net worth of your favourite "boxer". Well, I hate to be bearer of bad news but no matter what Fury does, he will never be among the wealthiest people in the world. He will not even come close. An average accountant's net worth will always be closer to Fury's than Fury's to Musk's or Bezos' or whatever. So you might as well go an hug the nuts of CEOs because if net worth is what you are after, saggy tits will never be even among the best paid athletes in the world let alone wealthiest people in the world.

 

Austin with a cracking observation once again...

 

Okay but you are a fan of his. This was evident as even though the guy fought only once in 17 months (and even that was against Chisora, lol) and will not fight again against a boxer in the foreseeable future while he is still holding that WBC belt hostage, you only kept going on about Usyk's inactivity, never mentioning Fury's inactivity until I forced the matter. So you have a clear bias towards him.

As for the OP's question: in my eyes, Fury is the worst offender against boxing as a champion, yes. There was never a champion in the history of this sport who damaged a division and the sport's reputation as badly as the ogre.

 

That's quite an economical-with-the-truth interpretation of what happened, McGrain, especially the "you admitted" bit.

What we agreed on was: Usyk, among others, were not very active. However, the debate was never about me claiming how Usyk wasn't inactive, that's not why I picked a bone with you. But you failed to realise how there were huge differences between inactivity and inactivity. You also failed to look at the context (how Fury led everyone down the garden path for months, lying about being in camp and whatnot, wasting Usyk's and everyone's time in the division), and by talking about Usyk's inactivity, singling him out hence making it look like he is more inactive than others, and only reluctantly agreed about Fury's inactivity in a "fine, whatever, Fury is inactive too, happy now" manner.

My issue was with you singling him out for something he is not even the worst offender of and as a unified champion at 36, obviously wasn't his doing either. I would never had got into the debate with you had you worded it like "man, the HW division is not really active, Usyk, Fury, Ruiz, Wilder etc. don't really have much fights these days". I would have agreed. But by only and only mentioning Usyk and paint him as "The Inactive One", it felt unfair and wrong especially from a moderator.

 

Your exact words were "You are either an active fighter or you are not." without mentioning any context. Once again: wording matters and I don't think it was without a reason why you didn't word it like "shame he couldn't fight more". You just kept going on about how he was inactive and when I debated you, you mentioned "there could be reasons" - as if a 36-year-old-guy desperate to become undisputed deliberately not fighting more.

As for your kind remarks:
1) "You are the worst kind of poster, the absolute worst" - Then it's fitting that you are the worst kind of moderator, the absolute worst, letting a privacy breach go without so much as a temporary ban (I'm still waiting for your answer about another matter, btw, please check your inbox)
2) "a heavyweight obsessive" - Lol, so now one can be a s*** member if one is particularly interested in one weight division - okay, good to know
3) "hater" - I detest what Fury is doing to boxing not the man himself - I couldn't give a flying f*** about what he does when he is not damaging the sport that I love and if other are not equally critical of Fury's way, they are also enemies of boxing with their enabler attitude. The much criticised HW division is stalled and slow exactly because of Fury and his enablers so if talking about this fact makes me a "hater" - so be it.
4) "superfan" - Because I like boxers who don't damage the sport and try to achieve things? Okay.
5) "Talking to you is an absolutely dreadful experience." - The feeling is mutual.

 

We should judge boxers by their sporting achievements and not believed personal symphaty .

Nobody knows fury or usyk or wilder personally and their appearance in public is part of their marketing strategy . Usyk e.g is the "polite gentleman" and fury "mr arrogant badass" . They might or might not be such a character in real private life.

 

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There were arguably worse human beings in boxing than Fury. Rapists, murderers, criminals. Ali was an adulterer and at the very least an ephebophile (Belinda Boyd was only 16 when he impregnated her). Fury is a deeply flawed character too, with his rants about Jews and homosexuals and whatnot, but that's mostly because he is admittedly uneducated.

So we should clearly define what the OP means by "most hated". Most hated as in most deserving to be hated as a human being? That's not Fury at all. Most hated = hated to cause the most damage to boxing and its reputation, especially as a champion? Yes, the guy is a very strong candidate.