Should Tyson Fury go down as the most hated boxer in history?

1) So you are not the worst moderator because you don't abuse your status? Okay.

2) "I'm not sure what else you want" - Maybe you doing your job and sanctioning the guilty party when breaching someone's privacy instead of waiting for another two and a half months when said member does something nasty again and falsely accuses others of identity theft in public. Because that's what earned said member the ban, not his breaching my privacy months ago. That was quite a dishonest suggestion once again, McGrain.

3) Breached my privacy "according to me"? Are you for real? My publicly not available LinkedIn account's profile picture was downloaded and used here publicly, without my knowledge or consent. I'm not sure you are familiar with what constitutes as breaching of privacy then.

4) I didn't send a private message specifically to you. I messaged all moderators, including you. So this "keep sending you private messages" remark is once again, being rather economical with the truth. That's quite an unfortunate tendency you have there.

But I agree, let's spare each other of the experience of interacting with each other in the future. Consider this a promise from my side. Cheers.

 

It’s getting bad I am a long time Fury fan but his talk this week has just been worse than ever. Also he looks terrible not just fat but looks maybe drug and alcohol ****ed up

 

The devil made me do it excuse? LOL Fury wants to fight MMA guys and make his billion. More power to him. But what I don't like, is that fact that he is holding up the division. Relinquish the belts and let the rest of the guys sort it out. I think that is fair.

 

Yes, he's ****ed the title with both of his 'so called' reigns.

 

Shame.

 

Did they defend against their mandatories?

 

'Hate' is a big word.
Probably he will be looked on as being a bit of a clown and foolish for not taking the undisputed position. He talks it but doesn't walk it.

 

Upon reading the title of this thread more closely, I get your point.

 

Most hated? Absolutely not and doesn't deserve to be.

Biggest waste of natural talent? For sure

 

I,m pretty comfortable fury goes for big shows and big money on the sunset of his career , especially i,m comfortable he is not willing to offer our 5-4-3 cheater champ ( 5 hw fights against 4 opponents and 3 of them are chosen bums ) an undisputed title when he feels not confident at the moment that he can beat usyk due to his current shape.

Yes , he should consider to vacate the belt and let other fight for it but realistically he most probably will hold it until forced by wbc to fight or loose the belt .

Its easy : usyk would need to fight for a very small purse percentage against him so fury gets motivated enough to bring himself in full shape again to beat usyk for sure . If usyk demands something close to 50:50 fury prefers show fights where he does not need to be in full shape .

 

Are you for real with the “Usyk doesn’t deserve undisputed yet” idiocy again? So the unified world heavyweight champion isn’t deserving of the WBC title but the 40-year-old, 12-losses corpse of Chisora was as an opponent for a voluntary defence?

Apart from this, you basically parrot back Fury’s nonsense. I thought you weren’t a fan.

1) Not that he had to but Usyk already took the small percentage offer when he said yes to 30 percent. Show me another unified champion in history who would have said yes to such an insulting low ball offer. Everyone would have walked away but not Usyk. It was especially disgusting from Fury since it was him who demanded the bigger cut in 2019 when there were talks for a Joshua fight. Joshua was still unbeaten, a unified champion, a much, MUCH bigger draw and cash cow than the back then beltless Fury who was just building his career back following his PED ban. I guess you had no problem then with the beltless challenger demanding 60% against the cash cow unified champion, right? It’s amazing how twisted the logic of the Fury cult members.

2) This whole percentage thing is weak sauce anyway. There are no percentages in Saudi Arabia as fighters get individual offers from the local promoters. Usyk signed his side of the deal and was happy to go forward. Fury was reportedly offered 90 million USD. This would have been by far his biggest payday yet. He still turned it down. Care to elaborate why would anyone turn a shot at the undisputed title (and an easy shot at that since you only need to beat a “middleweight midget”, right?) especially for a career high payday down? No need to answer, Fury answered it the other day. “Undisputed was never my goal, did I ever say it was my goal?” Your ogre cult leader just exposed himself.

He never wanted the Usyk fight, never wanted the smoke. Not that it’s anything new of course. It was clear as day when he kept demanding ridiculous things to waste time and price himself out, while he wasn’t even in camp and SugarHill confirmed there were no plans for an Usyk fight as far as he was concerned, and that he was in the UK at the time to train Okolie. Heck, John Fury was furious at SugarHill for telling the truth about the situation hence proving how Fury never wanted the smoke from Usyk. Yet here you are, still repeating Fury’s BS. Astonishing.

 

If you mean in a historical perspective as in who has been the most hated in history - no of course not. Jack Johnson, at one point Ali was loathed by a significant portion of the American public and quite a few journalists, Liston was badly mistreated by the press and wider society, Dempsey vilified because of WW1, the list goes on. If you meant in a historical sense no (and I know this makes me sound like an arrogant twat, but you do not know anything about the sport.)

If you meant should he be then this attitude is part of the problem. Hating people you never met and never will meet - or worshipping them too? Some 'fans' are way, way too emotionally involved. However, Fury's antics are long past the point where they are fully his responsibility alone. His fans, promoters, organisations and some of the media who have all excused that behaviour are the ones responsible for this. And these idiots like Benson and others who hype up everything he says are a disgrace.

It's the people who have enabled this **** who are responsible. As long as he is making money for people they do n't care. As others have mentioned though -most hated? By what metric - Edwin Valero abused and murdered his wife, Tony Ayala Jr. raped and badly injured several women, promoters who steal from fighters and often leave them wrecks, Gervonta Davis is on camera being violent to women, James Butler, Panama Lewis (with Luis Resto) bears responsibility for a lot of things especially the death of Billy Collins. Sadly the list is far longer that's just just to name a few. Sounds like you need to learn more about the sport.

He should have been properly sanctioned for his offensive and bigoted statements, his drug cheating, ducking fights, other antics etc long ago. I think Fury's impact on the sport has been thoroughly negative and the behaviour he's been allowed to get away with is despicable at times but FFS 'most hated' is a childish question and his behaviour does not scratch the surface of what others have done.

 

Is he? Sexist, racist, homophobic, nationalist and xenophobic statements. As well as threatening and intimidating a journalist. His behaviour has long been appalling.