Should Usyk just vacate his WBA belt and call out Wilder or Joyce? - What can Usyk actually do now?

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  1. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Oh I feel that! I'm not defending it, but predicting it.
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joyce does nothing for him. Nor for his legacy or his wallet.

    Fury, Wilder, or retire.
     
  3. dragansimic22

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    Are you stupid, we barely have fights anyways, and you would leave it for futher delaying?
     
  4. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    Hahahha, how come you didnt say that when Fury chose to fight White and Chisora after that, instead AJ, u dumb.
     
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  5. dragansimic22

    dragansimic22 Member banned Full Member

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    Why, he can defend and milk money?
     
  6. dragansimic22

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    + hes already beaten Joyce
     
  7. dragansimic22

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    But he conquered 2 weight categories, 7 belts, and gold olympic medal. He is done enough, only true champion since Vlad.
     
  8. senpai

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    Usyk is very inactive for someone so light and old at the division with average height of 6'5 and weight of 250 pounds.

    He only fought once per year since moved up in HW division.

    He needs as many fights as possible this year. So two fights will be good for him.

    Dubois and Hrgovic
     
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  9. MAD_PIGE0N

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    The big game in boxing is always the pro career (not the amateur 3-4-5 rounds fights, sometimes for 2 minutes rounds) and that's normal. In that sense, Usyk is a great cruiser, but now a heavy. If he wants to solidify as a great fighter in both, he has some steps to walk in the heavy division with his overall 20 pro fights. He's fine if he decides to stop boxing now, just won't be anything as a heavy. He knows it, otherwise would have stop if it was enough.

    Who cares about the number of the belts or even the defenses? What matters is the number of very good to top opponents.
     
  10. dragansimic22

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    You sound very mad. Olympic gold means a great thing. Usyk is a great boxer, he took down AJ who boxing fans had as epitome of "great heavyweight" - if you beat that kind of guy twice, you a great, and if you beat him with a disadwantage of not being in your natural category, it is futher greatnes. Dont be sour, dont be a ***** and undermine his achivments, you dont have right to do that when you propel Fury who ducked him, Usyk would win that fight and he would be up there with Holyfield and the others.
     
  11. MAD_PIGE0N

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    You sound very blinded, but also incompetent (how else could it be when glorifying Hrgovic), unable to distinguish amateur and pro career and their meaning.

    Usyk is 191 cm., his natural weight is absolutely a heavy one, above 90 kilos, but he intentionally kept it on the upper limit of the cruiser. Anyway, his choice, he did the best in the category.

    If all of what Usyk did is enough he can stop, can't he? But come on, 20 pro fights and a great legacy is a thin line, despite the high Olympic achievements. I am giving you an example with a great Bulgarian boxer, one of the few guys ever to defeat Floyd and it was on the Atlanta Olympic games, semi-finals (so all in disadvantage to him) - Serafim Todorov:

    1996 - Silver medal at the Olympic Games in Atlanta, category 57 kg
    1996 - Simple cup winner of the Strandja tournament
    1995 - Gold medal world champion in boxing for amateurs, category 57 kg
    1993 - Gold medal world champion in boxing for amateurs, category 57 kg
    1993 - Simple cup winner of the Strandja tournament
    1991 - Gold medal world champion in boxing for amateurs, category 54 kg
    1991 - Gold medal European Men's Champion
    1989 - Silver medal at the World Amateur Boxing Championships, category 54 kg
    1989 - Gold medal European Men's Champion
    1989 - Simple cup winner of the Strandja tournament
    1986 - Gold medal European Junior Champion

    Do you know what happened to his pro career? It was a huge s*it!
     
  12. dragansimic22

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    You are dodging a point on fixating on amateur career. Who is gloryfiing Hrgovic - I just want to see him fight and cowards at top 15 dont want to fight. Aside from that, lets get back to Usyk: Olympic gold matters, Conquering whole cruiser category matters, Conquering Heavyweight matters. He only needs that one belt, the belt that your guy that you defend (and who is a fake champ) doesnt even want for 70/30 split. Usyk being ducked by the "greatest heavyweight of this era" and double victory over Anthony Joshua who is considered as a great (he aint, but he is considered - and if he defeated Fury he would be called as one, underserving).

    You are sour, I get it - current true heavyweight champion is not british or american, and you are now mad. Get over it.
     
  13. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Let's see what do you thing about:

    Hahah!

    Yes and he did.


    Having two fights for all the belts is "conquering the category"? Isn't it better to have few very good to top opponents there and the belts? Otherwise, Usyk was given a shortcut to the belts - Chazz, Chisora and the champ. Deny that...


    You get nothing with or incompetence and bias. Have a day off. And I barely give a f*** about the nationality of the champion, I'm a Balkan guy, you *diot. Learned phrases won't help you.

    By the way, people don't fight Hrgovic not because they're cowards, but because so far he's not worth doing it when you're in top 10.
     
  14. dragansimic22

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    You are presenting Usyk is a fraud, but still you dont denounce Fury for ducking him, or AJ for loosing to him, twice. You are biased and joke.
     
  15. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Low as a clown. Not even the biggest Usyk fans (won't mention nicks) can twist my words claiming I describe Usyk as a fraud. And instead of proving anything, you turn around Fury. :D I told you - have a day off, you pathetic.
     
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