Should Usyk just vacate his WBA belt and call out Wilder or Joyce? - What can Usyk actually do now?

Whilst I really dislike how Dubois has been positioned into a title shot, Usyk just fought Joshua twice. He was then trying to fight Fury. Now he doesn't get Fury so he has to drop a belt to fight Wilder? Then Joyce? Then Fury?

That is some crazy high standard some people are trying to hold Usyk to. Has there ever been a fighter to take out the top 4 at heavyweight, back to back to back?

 

I doubt that there's an era every top faced the others and I don't expect Usyk to do so, that's why I am saying it's fine to defend the mandatories, but if he choses to leave the belts and manages to arrange few top 5-10 fights that'll be better I think.

 

I wasn't really writing in opposition to your post, but dropping the belts seems unlikely when his focus is undisputed. From a sporting perspective I admire that. Belts also come with financial upsides.

Plus, if he drops the WBA, there would be calls to drop the IBF because I suspect some quarters would have similar issues with Hrgovic getting a shot as they do with Dubois. Then suddenly he is left with the WBO belt (lol) and fighting Joyce.

I don't see him dropping the belts if he can help it. I suspect he might if it means getting the Fury fight, but that should be it. Certainly not to fight Wilder.

Now if WBA make that fight with Dubois stepping aside, then yeah, sure, fight Wilder.

 

All good, we're just talking about the possibilities, not arguing.

What is the Usyk's understanding of the things we don't know, but I think AJ was right about what he said recently: the undisputed is too much of a headache and is not worth it. Have one or two belts and that will allow you to always have top contenders or do voluntary defenses against good opponents. It's more than enough.

 

When you vacate your belts, you're no longer a champion. Titles glorify you.

When you fight your mandatories as a champion, it means you're defending your titles to top contenders. That gives you glory.

 

Haha, whilst I don't doubt it was a headache for Joshua, that sounds a little salty. No one forced him to fight so infrequently, and the orgs were extremely lenient with him in that respect. The guy benefited massively from holding 3 belts.

 

The federations have no principles, that's another story. It's great for them, so they can profit from fixing the situation of a boxer. See, how frequent Usyk fights after taking the 4 belts from AJ - once in a rematch. That's for 18 months.

 

If that's the case, Usyk will make quick work of Dubois and move on.

 

Can someone please clarify this ... if Usyk beats Dubois, that's the end of the WBA regular belt, right?

 

Yes, thank ****. They've been working to get rid of them since August of '21. There's also a fight at Strawweight being worked on. After that we only got Super Middleweight, Welterweight and Lightweight left, and if I had to guess I'd say at least two of those will probably be elevated as opposed to seeing consolidation bouts.

Also just as a side note, I find it hilarious that this and the Strawweight fight will be only the second and third consolidation bouts. So far all the others have gone away due to elevation, like in Lara and Wood's cases, or due to the regular "champions" dropping their belts, like Merhy and Davis with his light welter title. The only Super vs. Regular fight has been between Hiroto Kyoguchi and Esteban Bermudez.

It's one of the reasons why I'm okay with Usyk fighting Dubois. In addition to him staying active, we get one step closer to being rid of these stupid regular/super duper belts.

 

WTF are you even talking about, you moron?

 

I think that is a highly unlikely scenario given the IBF called Hrgovic as mandatory in Nov '22. In particular, I don't see the IBF pausing for Undisputed again after witnessing Fury hold up the division for yet another 6 months with his bull****.

Though I acknowledge Usyk's age is an issue

 

Fury's whole career is old men and nobodies, so we know he isn't breaking from that.