Should we credit fighters for beating up washed up "names" in boxing?

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pimp C thinks Quillin beating a washed up inactive Winky Wright is something to brag about.
     
  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You think Winky Wright wasn't washed up when Quillin beat him. You actually consider that a great win for Quillin. Your judgement is sh*t.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No, it's still a good win but not a great win. But it's still something that's always been done to improve a fighter's record and standing in the sport. Mayweather and Pacquiao don't deserve full marks for beating the version of De La Hoya or Mosley that they did anymore than De La Hoya deserved props for beating the version of Chavez that he did. The young Roy Jones who beat Hopkins when they were both in their primes would never have lost to the old version of Hopkins that beat him when they were both old men, and both Hopkins and Jones would have beat Calzaghe a few years earlier. It's called the art of the cherry pick. You fight opponents at the most opportune time when you are strongest and they are weakest.
     
  4. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your examples aren't that good though.. It's more like the guys that it's popular to dislike you're trying to discredit..

    No one really says how great Danny is because of his fight with Morales.. No one brings up Mosley and Canelo at all.. I'm sure real fans can judge on their own how good/ much credit to give any given fight.. Some get over hyped, some get no hype.. It is what it is...
     
  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Maybe not ODLH, but Mosley had just beat the C.J. and Farmboxer highly rated Antonio Margarito before his fight with Mayweather and he was coming off of a loss when he fought Pacquiao which is why HBO at the time skipped on that fight. They thought it would not sell.
    Oscar was all business from 2006-2009 he was not the fighter he used to be but he still signed the contract, so all is fair.
     
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  6. M.3

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    When Floyd fought Oscar Floyd was at the disadvantage.. Oscar dictated everything and was the champ, money man, and at a weight Floyd never fought at.. That can't be ignored because Oscar wasn't absolute prime anymore...
     
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  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I think it all depends on how experienced the fighter is! Say for example, Garcia had beaten Morales in his 10th fight, I think that would have been note worthy! But doing it with 20-30 fights under your belt is not at all impressive.
     
  8. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Honestly, I usually don't count wins against anyone who's 39 or older.

    Unless they're black. Then it's like 41 or 42.

    It's not that older guys can't be good, it's more that they're unreliable and have big flaws.
     
  9. BCS8

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    In general, NO.

    It depends on how much the fighter has deteriorated.

    Sometimes the fighter isn't washed up, he's just been out of sorts and on a bad streak. Example: Duran vs Davey Moore. Moore was the overwhelming favourite to retain his belt against a washed-up Duran, and instead received an all-time beating.