Should we revive London Prize Ring Rules?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Let's say that tomorrow, a new organization appeared that sanctioned bouts under MODIFIED London Prize Ring Rules:

    1) Fighters will use 4 oz. MMA gloves

    2) Throws and trips are allowed, except for grabbing below the waist

    3) Standing (guillotine) chokes like J.C. Heenan used against Sayers (and modern BJJ practitioners still use safely) are permitted

    4) A knockdown or throw will end a round

    5) 30 seconds between rounds

    6) Fights end by doctor stoppage, referee stoppage / TKO, KO, or RTD




    We'll even re-mint Sullivan's diamond belt and Cribb's lionskin belt for separate US / British championships, with a unification planned later on.



    Would you watch it? How about on pay-per-view?
     
  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    too dangerous for the practitioners. today's boxing is a health waster.
    why not UFC ? or a bare-knuckled UFC ? or Muay-Thai (older version allowing elbows and even headbutts) ? kicks and knees make it flashier.
     
  3. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ditto
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Is it only for mustachioed, white gentlemen or are blacks able to participate?


    At any rate, with the brutality of several 4 oz gloved rounds, the sport will be banned rather quickly. In MMA it's doable because fights are never more than 4 rounds and most of the action is gay wrestling on the floor. Plus they can't box.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Mustaches are optional, but being Irish allows you a complimentary bottle of whiskey between rounds.

    We also have a sponsor:

    http://www.americanmustacheinstitute.org/

    This is one reason I included doctor/referee stoppages. An advantage would probably show up sooner rather than later.
     
  7. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, because of fighters going down from light taps to get through tight spots.
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Wtf :lol:


    Well, i think the problem would be that more than half the matches would end in stoppages on cuts. In todays boxing, it usually means controversy, a big debate (see Lewis vs Klitschko) and often a rematch to settle the score. But if that many of them end in it? I think the sport would lose credibility, as it would basically come down to "who cuts least".

    I mean, even back in the day, fights went on for hours without a clean knockout winner. The 30 seconds to recover rule makes knockouts very hard and one could clinch and pretend to be thrown/knocked down for another 30 seconds.

    Which brings me to another aspect: the extreme unpredictability of the fights length would make it very unpractical, if not impossible, to sell to TV stations.
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Hmm...Good points all, although many fights in LPR days were over comparatively quickly (less than an hour, usually), so marathon matches are comparatively unlikely. TV spots are definitely an issue here, but they could still insert commercials reliably during the 30 second breaks (and might get a lot of them). And since it's less a quick knockout than a fairly reliable grinding-down process, some aspects might be more predictable.

    I wonder, though: what if we organized it into 12 x 3 minute rounds, 10 seconds down like regular boxing?
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i would watch it out of intrest in seeing it being done

    probably woulndt like it as much as the MOQ version though
     
  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I'm guessing the brutality would still kill the sport. Hell, i would probably consider it too brutal and i love boxing.

    Plus, smaller gloves in general is just less interesting to watch. Long term strategy, combination punching, covering up and countering on the ropes all are great to see, but would be reduced to a minimum with 4 oz gloves.

    As a scientific experiment it would be interesting though, see if after a decade they go back to the hands-by-hips stance.... and growing moustaches.
     
  12. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be great.

    And safer.

    And a better martial art.

    Gloves protect the hands, not the other fighter. They just allow guys to take too much punishment. Boxing is by far the most brutal combat sport.

    It would also bring a lot of fans. One of the reason boxing has lost so much popularity is because its become so far removed from real fighting. Think of Winky Wright using his gloves as shields or the referee stopping the fight as soon as the fighters get close.
     
  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Ring did an excellent article about this a few years back. At the time it was thought someone like Tyson would be virtually unbeatable, and a Camacho would lose out.

    The conclusion of the article was; with a tightening up of the rules, it would be possible, as certain aspects of LPR actually are safer for the fighters than Queensberry rules.
     
  14. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    defence.

    gloves are now protectors for your face and body not just your hands and your opponants face as they use in LPR.

    high guards and combinations will be disencouraged.
     
  15. janitor

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    Probably not, because I know exactly what elements it would atract, and it would not have a history.

    Now if Cribb Molineux II came up on Sky then I would pay for it.