Should Wlad Have Re-matched Purrity & Sanders?

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ad hominem attacks, classy. ;)

    Nope, can't since I don't have the time to look it up. However, he was the WBO mandatory in 2008 and the IBF mandatory in 2012 according to wikipedia thus ranked by these two governing bodies.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    and yet no defence from you in the face of your argument being destroyed.
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need, you brought forth your arguments, I argued mine. You are too stubborn to admit you are wrong, so there's no point in continuing. The rest can read and decide for themselves.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    That really doesnt make him a good challenger Im afraid .A look at who Wilder has just defended against tells us what that is worth! Two close wins over false alarm Solis is the extent of Thompson's credentials.
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, he over 40 when he beat Solis though. Same for up- and coming price. And before that he beat Krasniqui who was a contender for a while at the time and Timur Ibragimov and Beck who were at least a fringe contender. IMO that is solid. Not special or outstanding by any means but solid. Especially in that era.

    Also, I don't think you can fault a champ to defend against a mandatory.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Lets agree to disagree.
     
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  7. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thompson was rated by RING and was the IBF mandatory contender. If Wlad did not face him he would have been stripped. Thompson at least was top 10 so hardly the worse mandated opponent. Thompson was avoided, as I recall at least three different opponents refused or pulled out of fights with him for the spot.

    • Klitschko entered as [url]The Ring Magazine[/url] World Heavyweight Champion, and Thompson was the publication's No. 10 contender.
     
  8. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    By the way this topic has been done to death and isn't that hard to research:

    Purritty turned down a Klitschko rematch.

    After winning his next seven fights, Klitschko hoped to have a rematch with Puritty in Hamburg, Germany on March 18, 2000, but Puritty rejected the offer made by [url]Universum Box-Promotion[/url], Klitschko's management. Puritty lost to [url]Vitali Klitschko[/url], Wladimir's older brother, by an [url]eleventh-round TKO[/url] on December 8, 2001.

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/why-do-people-think-wladimir-klitschko-ducked-sanders-purrity-rematch-it-was-the-other-way-round.583384/[/url]
     
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  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Regarding Sanders, my infamous post on the subject that breaks down in detail how Wlad tried but was unable to get the fight. Ultimately after some legal issues and an injury, Sanders wanted to be the man to beat both brothers, and only wanted to rematch Wlad if he could beat Vitali first.

    Corrie Sanders will be allowed one voluntary defence of the WBO heavyweight title he so easily wrenched from Wladimir Klitschko’s grasp before he is contractually obligated to fight the 1996 Olympic champion once again.

    Klitschko, who will travel to the US tomorrow with brother Vitali, wants immediate revenge, but cooler heads at the Hamburg headquarters of Universum Box Promotions are considering an interim fight against the likes a Fres Oquendo, John Ruiz or - surprisingly – the heavy-handed David Tua.

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/klitschkos-rematch-clause[/url]

    Sanders is obligated to give the giant Ukrainian a rematch, and the whispers are that the return will take place before the end of the year(December). In the meantime, Klitschko will face an as yet unconfirmed opponent in Germany on August 30 and Sanders, too, is looking forward to an interim fight.


    Gauntlet of articles in which Sanders pursued super fights with Chris Byrd, Roy Jones Jr, Lennox Lewis, and even Botha. But WBO orders Sanders vs Brewster.

    [url]http://www.geocities.ws/corriesanders/2003.html[/url]


    To state that defeated WBO heavyweight title-holder Wladimir Klitschko has become obsessed with avenging his two round defeat Corrie Sanders would be an extreme understatement.

    Since that career-endangering defeat in March, Klitschko has grown obsessed with the rematch above and beyond of the fixations all top athletes feels after they plummet from lofty standings. Klitschko has made it his mission in life to defeat the South African.

    But Wladimir has done more than buy a few irons and putters to prepare for the expected December return. He has hired respected trainer Freddie Roach to work alongside his long-time coach Fritz Sdunek. The American is already working with big brother Vitali and now Wladimir, too, will employ Roach

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-box...ews/wladimir-klitschko-obsessed-and-dangerous[/url]



    I really hope my next fight is the rematch with Sanders," Wladimir Klitschko said. "I know I am ready for him now.

    [url]http://www.boxing247.com/news/klitschko3108.php[/url]

    In an unusual move, the WBO has reportedly ordered a mandatory title defense for newly crowned heavweight champ Corrie Sanders. Sanders (37-2, 27 KOs) must fight the first available contender in the heavyweight division.

    This is surprising as WBO champs can sometimes go years without defending against #1 contenders and almost never are mandatory bouts ordered.

    With a voluntary defense apparently out of the picture, a unification with IBF champ Chris Byrd or an all-South African matchup against with Frans Botha are presumably gone, at least for now.

    WBO #1 David Tua unavailable (already engaged in a fight with Hasim Rahman) it looks like either #2 Lamont Brewster or ex-champ Wladimir Klitschko (the new #3 in the March rankings) will get the next shot at Sanders.


    That leaves number two-rated Lamon Brewster, as the next available challenger to face Sanders. The same boxer who was supposed to face Wladimir on March 8th, but decided to back-out of the negotiations. Should he decide to pass on this fight, that will give Wladimir the chance to face Sanders in a rematch, as Wladimir holds the third spot in the ratings. "I would be very happy should the situation turn this way," said Wladimir when we spoke with him.

    [url]http://www.geocities.ws/corriesanders/2003.html[/url]



    World Boxing Organisation heavyweight title-holder Corrie Sanders will face mandated challenger Lamon Brewster within the next sixty days, following the South African’s decision to drop his legal action against the WBO.

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing-news/usa-boxing-news/hails-end-of-sanders-lawsuit[/url]

    Since bombing out Wladimir Klitschko five months ago, Sanders has been reported to be gearing up for a return with the German-based Ukrainian, going to defend against Chris Byrd, not interested in meeting Lamon Brewster because it wasn't a fight that proved interesting to the networks, was going to face David Tua instead, and then agreed - after starting a law suit against the WBO - to defend after all against Brewster.

    Please forgive the somewhat confused and rather sceptical South African fight community, then, when they hear of the decision to meet Jones Jr. That came as purse bids for the Sanders-Brewster bout were sealed last Friday. Now the WBO have threatened that if he doesn't go through with that bout, he will be stripped of their title. And the German promoters who have been awarded the WBO defence may not take it all lying down.

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-box...-african-round-up-will-sanders-fight-jones-jr[/url]



    Sanders gave up the WBO strap in favour of accepting a No.2 rating from the more respected WBC.


    Wladimir Klitschko appears to have given up on gaining revenge on Corrie Sanders and has targeted a fight with the equally dangerous David Tua instead. Sanders, of course, smashed the younger Klitschko brother to bits to win that belt back in March but the South African has vacated it to pursue the WBC title


    This article states Sanders vs Klitschko II was still in the works until Sanders accepted the Jones Jr. offer, which of course fell apart.

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/archive/anthony-evans/q--a-with-corrie-sanders[/url]

    A marketable commodity overnight, the 37 year-old Pretoria native was suddenly been linked with the biggest names in boxing and at time of going to press had just been offered a career best purse to fight pound-for-pounder Roy Jones Junior on November 8.

    Team Sanders accepted Jones's offer at a day's notice on August 8 but by August 10 Jones let it be known he wanted a ridiculous $20million to face the South African, otherwise he'd drop back down to light heavyweight and face Antonio Tarver is a far less compelling bout.

    Before the Jones thing came up it appeared you were heading into a December rematch with Wladimir, providing you both won your interim bouts? How do you see the rematch with Klitschko?


    CS: I have a step up on him, mentally. I know he'll fight very differently the second time around. He'll be probably be a completely different fighter with a completely different approach in this fight. But the truth is he can't take my punches and, even if it takes until round seven or eight, I'll land and get to him again. I think next year is my last in boxing.



    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-boxing-news/world-boxing-news/wladimir-targets-wbo-belt-and-tua[/url]

    From Scene:


    Of course Tua was interested in a Jones fight too but got froze out of boxing completely until 2005 over his legal issues. Klitschko vs Brewster happened for the WBO title instead.


    According to New Zealand's Sunday News, David Tua was in serious negotiations to fight Roy Jones Jr. in 2003, when Jones won the WBA heavyweight title from John Ruiz. The fight talks was broken off when Tua became engaged in his ongoing legal war with his former management team of Kevin Barry and Martin Pugh. The case is still going in a New Zealand high court with appearances set for October 19 and 20.


    [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/jones-sanders-radar-article-1.521181[/url]

    WBA heavyweight champ Roy Jones Jr. denied reports that he will fight WBO heavyweight champ Corrie Sanders in a pay-per-view event


    -In this article, Sanders states his intentions to beat both brothers and give Wlad his rematch....if he beats Vitali. It's also revealed Sanders was out the last half of 2003 with a hand injury.

    [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../sports/leaguesandsports/mencollegebasketball[/url]

    [url]http://www.secondsout.com/world-box...ews/sanders-wants-both-klitschkos-then-retire[/url]

    I stayed away from the gym at first but I soon got back into training,” said Sanders. “Money was the motivation and the chance to make millions. My goal is to win the title from Vitali, defend against Wladimir for big money and then retire to be honest.

    “This is payback time for me. Money plays a big part but I also want to be the WBC heavyweight champion and a three time champion. I know the WBU and WBO titles are not the best titles to have but the WBC is the most prestigious and I’m very grateful for the opportunity.

    Midway through 2003, Sanders, 39-2-(29), badly cut his right hand on a sliding glass door but insists that injury has now fully healed.

    “The hand is now fine, perfect,” said Sanders. “I’m in the gym and training normally.”


    "When I beat Vitali, I'm sure I'll be the only person that can beat two brothers in the same division," Sanders said Wednesday.

    Sanders said if he beats Klitschko he would give a rematch to his brother.

    "I believe he wants me again and I think it would be great for the whole world to see again because everybody thought it was a lucky punch," he said.
     
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  10. Outstock

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    So what conclusion do you draw from this?

    In the first link it claims Wlads management were considering an interim fight rather than a rematch with Sanders. Then the next link confirms that Wlad did indeed go onto take an interim fight.

    You must ask yourself why Wlad needed a warm-up fight before stepping back into the ring with a past prime Sanders.

    Should Wlad have taken a rematch with Sanders straight away? Yeah , i think he should have.
     
  11. The Kentucky Cobra

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    You didn't really read the post. It's okay, it tends to break the minds of haters, Dino is still having nightmares about it.
     
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  12. Outstock

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    You can't say what I just posted isn't true , because it is.

    Its too bad that WK never took the rematch , because history shows he never chose to avenge defeat to a past prime fringe contender who never held a top 10 ranking in his prime..
     
  13. HerolGee

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    funny that, he had no truoble getting a near bum in the ring first time with sanders.

    but AFTER he gets killed in seconds, ITS SO IMPOSSIBKE TO GET HIM IN THE RING!
     
  14. The Kentucky Cobra

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    History will show you failed to read.
     
  15. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    You seem salty over something.

    I read what you posted and it confirms exactly what I just said. WK should have rematched Sanders instead of taking an interim fight with Fabio Moli.

    Tbh , it was probably the right decision because Sanders would have sparked him out again in the rematch.