Should Wladamirs Holding tactics be allowed?

The consensus tends to be that Byrd is his best win. A guy who he beat twice, and dominated both times

Haye isn't an overblown light heavyweight. He was a big cruiserweight who admitted he struggled with the weight. That makes him a small heavyweight

 

He is not the only fighter who clinches

 

So you're butthurt that Wlad doesn't fight someone that doesn't exist? Got it

 

floyd and ward also hold alot when a fighter gets close

 

Holding is a part of professional boxing, this called "sweet sience" of boxing. Nothing wrong with that.

Ali hold, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield and so on....

 

Yeah sure holding is part of the sweet science except that hugging /wrestling and clinching were all banned back in 1887 under the marquess of queensberry rules. Boxing is punching you want to hug half naked sweaty men go to a gay gym

 

Couldn't have said it better. End of story

 

Sanders saved every single Klittard..

Because if it wasn't for Sanders

it won't just be a tko6 thread

it will be a tko1 and a tko6 thread on both Klitschkos.


There was no way in Hell Wlad could have gotten to Lennox at that point of Wlad's career.

Lewis will not treat Wladimir like he did Rahman.. Emmanuel knew all about Wladimir back than.. Lewis would have treated Wlad as serious as he did Tyson.

Lewis would have KOed Wlad in R1...

 

Yes and its legal, if it was illegal he would be warned and then deducted a point for it. Everyone does it, people forget Lennox used to hold alot aswell:yep

 

Personally I think he holds excessively, much like Ruiz. But if referees don't do their jobs and warn him for it then I don't see any reason why he should stop doing it.

Many greats have bent the rules to their advantage. Ali held a lot during his comeback, Foreman pushed his opponents a lot, Lewis also held and leaned on his opponent, though not as much as Wlad. Holyfield headbutted his way to numerous titles.

 

Just re-watched the Lewis-Grant fight. Lennox did a massive amount of infighting during that match against the 6'8 Grant.

Upper cuts and a variety of inside skills were shown. The thing is every time Lennox even remotely held.. the ref pushed him off. and said

STOP NOW LENNOX. STOP HOLDING. NOW. and forced Lewis apart.

Lennox did love to hold, but the vast majority of his fights were on enemy soil and he was being forced apart almost instantly.

 

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But ya

I'm actually 100% fine with the way Wladimir fights.

People just wanna see him get knocked out a 4th time. He fights very smart and fights in a way that suits his style. People forget he does not have the best chin and if he fights too aggressively he will be laid out again.

Wladimir is gonna jab his way into a Top 10 ATG spot.

 

Haye dehydrated for his cruiserweight.

 

Correct. Wlad doesn't hold that much, and when he does, its legal and clean. He does not throw foul punches, head butt, spin guys around, etc...