Shoulder pain with left hook

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  1. jasper2005

    jasper2005 Active Member Full Member

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    scrap is like a yoda that knows nothing that talks out his ass dont feed the trolls
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was answering the Guys Question, its a problem you have throwing a long Hook, or in the States I believe its called a short jab. He got the injury by Palm facing Him, from experience it happens a lot, wrong mechanics for the punch. Its a pumping shot of the back foot with the direction of the front foot, if the elbow flares, as it does when throwing Hooks palm facing, and outside the front foot, theres to much leverage on the shoulder, same effect when pushing a car. It wont give the same control, and balance as turning the shot, theres more people get bad hands and other problems in relation to palm in, I have found.
     
  3. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    If it's a hook, then it's a hook; I don't know how there's a disconnect in terminology....

    If the punch is hooked, it's a hook; if it's a straight punch, it's a jab. I don't understand the word games... Hooks demand trunk and upper body rotation with a flexed elbow; jabs are a straight motion punches with no trunk rotation and all elbow extension... Pretty easy to differentiate.

    So how could he hurt his bicep if it is turned off by using his tricep?

    If he hurt his bicep doing it, this could be from overuse or from one overextended motion from one time.

    You'll have to provide pictures or examples of the punch you're talking about, because nobody should hurt their hands and other problems from hooking palm in... Simply study the best hookers in the game and they supinate. End of story.

    To counter any counter to this, one may see a pronation on the follow-through after the punch is missed or connected; I've seen plenty of this, but not until contact is made.
     
  4. DaveK

    DaveK Vicious & Malicious Full Member

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    So reading the previous posts by the OP, it seems he has a strained or torn biceps tendon.

    If you're throwing a hook from that far away, you need to employ better punch selection.

    Think of it this way: If your bicep is activated (elbow even slightly bent) while hooking and there's an opposing force which forces the elbow into extension (again, while actively flexing the elbow), that causes microtrauma to the muscle and potentially the tendon, which is what I think happened.

    "Tennis elbow" and "Golfer's elbow" are the same thing-

    I'll take Tennis elbow, or Lateral Epicondilitis, as an example:

    The wrist is in active extension in anticipation of a backhand hit, but is forced into flexion by the impact of the tennis ball... This action of being forced into the opposite way that the muscle is bracing to hold puts tremendous stress on the tendon, which, in this case, attaches at the lateral (outside) elbow...

    You may have biceps tendinopathy... Look up "Speeds Test" on google... Have someone you trust perform the test.

    I don't think it necessary, because of the pain and limitation in performance, we know you need to follow the protocol from my first post in reply to your issue...

    Good luck and I'll be happy to answer any other questions...

    Scrap: do more homework, brah...
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dave I do a lot of Homework, thats where I work from in my old age. :D