Should've Evander Holyfield retired after Holmes?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thread would have worked better for retire after Tyson II

    The Bowe wars and his revival vs Tyson made him

    Dont care about all the excuse making for Tyson in 2013

    at that time, Tyson was thought to be a heavy favorite who might kill Evander after the Bowe and heart dilemmas
     
  2. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    No answers thought so.

    Shut it ya wankstain.
     
  3. Curry85

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    That's a lot of money left on the table if he retires then.
     
  4. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    very impressive resume for holyfield, at that time. yep, he was the real deal.
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    this thread shows ydksab
     
  6. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    NO.....and no again.

    Tyson trained a max of three weeks for the first Holy fight,had a beyond **** team trainers of yes man, was partying hard and interrupted his already short camp to come to NY for the Rooney law suit.

    In he second career he was never ever in twelve round digging deep fighting shape . period, he trained for looks not stamina, lol, he pretty much stopped road work after the Spinks fight

    Everything went downhill after Spinks, hell he played with quitting but the big dough was sooooooooooooooo tempting, the slipping was already evident in the Bruno fight and it ended in Japan............while more motivated with a better trainer in his corner he clearly could not pull the trigger as he used too and that gave Ruddock a fighting chance. Sports writers of that time commented that Tyson abandoned finesse and took a mano di mano approach aka get hit and hit back harder.........a sure recipe for disaster and a disaster it turned out to be.
     
  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Watch Tyson-Ribalta from 1986 followed immediately by Tyson-Bruno I from 1989. That's as much detail as you need. You're welcome. :hi:
     
  8. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is reams of evidence to suggest Tyson just wasn't mentally up for hard training anymore.
    I remember a piece B.I. ran (I can't recall if it was for Ruddock 1 or 2) where this reporter from B.I. finally, after much arguing and haggling, managed to get into Tyson's camp to take some pics.
    From this reporter's observations, not only was Tyson late for training, but he spent about 20 minutes screwing about before he and his 'crew' decided that that was enough, and he hopped into a convertible and sped off to do some shopping.
    Apparently it was more like a circus than a training camp, at least that day.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very fail.

    Tyson was never very feel after Douglas.



    And the Tyson of Berbick or Spinks would have ripped Evander a new one, regardless of how many chemical the real deal ingested.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anything that takes away his wins over Tyson, hurts his standing considerably.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There would be pluses and minuses. On one hand he wouldn’t have accumulated the swath of defeats that he had. On the other, he would also drop some of the career defining wins and wars that he would get later.
     
  12. Barrf

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    That was pretty unfair to him. You're talking about two ATGs in their 40s who could still fight. Not exactly chumps, and he won both fights by a wide margin.

    As to Holyfield sticking around too long.. even THAT makes perfect sense. He didn't have an ounce of quit in his body. Why would he quit fighting? He pretty much had to go out on his shield.