showtime are in to make money not to draw even.

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  1. boxing_master

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    Espinoza does not have any projections on what the Mayweather-Maidana fight will generate on pay per view. But Mayweather needs to get at least 1.5 million to justify the $32 million guarantee that Showtime is giving him as a minimum for each of those six fights in the contract.

    people who have business sense know that breaking even is not good enough especially with showtime they have invested a lot in mayweather and were fooled in the initial interview were mayweather sold himself assuring them he would get them lots of money for each fight showtime were sold and told Mayweather he needs to get at least 1.5 million to justify the $32 million guarantee

    this is bad news for showtime and behind closed doors its not looking pretty.

    bottom line anything lower then 1.5 is a disaster.
     
  2. Stylez G.

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    Can anyone explain how they would need to do 1.5 million buys to break even? That doesn't seem to make much sense.
     
  3. victor879

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    Don't bother. I have a quote from Espinoza saying that isn't true and they (******* Nation) claim he's lying. Can't make this **** up.

    boxing_idiot has more information than Espinoza apparently.
     
  4. boxing_master

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    showtime have invested **** loads of money in Floyd 1.5 mill is the break even point anyone with a rational mind knows that.
     
  5. Stylez G.

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    That's fine. Could you please explain how 1.5 mill is the break even point?
     
  6. boxing_master

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    [url]http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/336345-mayweathers-may-3-challenge-isnt-maidana-its-doing-big-ppv-numbers[/url]
     
  7. Stylez G.

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    Espinoza isn't always upfront. However, I just don't see how they would need to do 1.5M buys just to break even. Very few fights in history have ever done that many PPV buys.
     
  8. boxing_master

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    because they have seen mayweathers past fights and many did over 1 mill buys so they invested in him giving him 32 mill guarantee you think that 32 mill comes from thin air ?
     
  9. Stylez G.

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    That article doesn't explain anything. Nowhere does Tim Smith explain how he got to that number.
     
  10. victor879

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    He said the rumors of needing 1.1 to 1.3 million buys were completely untrue. That would seem to imply their break even point is below 1.1 .. Espinoza said it was 900k in the Guerrero fight to break even. I'll naturally assume the true number is between 900k and 1.1 million PPV buys depending on event costs.

    Not in ******* world though. It's 1.5 million to "break even" and be damned what Espinoza or Showtime says....
     
  11. Mexi-Box

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    Did you see the money on that contract? Mayweather is getting paid a ton, Showtime is running commercials, and undercard fighters, expensive ones like Khan and Broner, need to be paid.

    The Floyd fans are acting like everything is fine and Showtime never expected Floyd to bring in big numbers. ****, HBO made a fine business decision. So far, it looks like this contract is just a big bust, if the 800k speculated PPV buys is true.
     
  12. boxing_master

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    :deal

    these *****s don't understand how business work :patsch

    the reason why mayweather got the lucrative contract was on the basis he makes them lots of money
     
  13. Stylez G.

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    You, nor anyone else has on here has seen the contract. You have no idea how it's structured. And you're telling me that Showtime is covering all of the advertisement costs as well as the undercard fighters? Exactly what costs is GBP covering?


    Of course they expected Floyd to bring in big numbers. His three fights with Showtime will do in the 4M buy range. However, how could anyone draw up a contract where they would need to do 1.5M buys just to break even? Does that sound reasonable to you?
     
  14. Stylez G.

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    The TS is probably just trolling. However, I'm not sure how anyone could see 1.5M as a break even point and not question it. I can't say for sure what the break even point is, but it would be pretty insane if it were 1.5M buys.
     
  15. victor879

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    They are idiots and trolls.

    Mayweather averaged 1.4 million PPV buys for 6 fights prior to his Showtime contract. Yet these idiots would try to have people believe that they signed him for a contract, that would require 1.5 million (100k more than his previous average) just to "break even."

    Dunces.