showtime are in to make money not to draw even.

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  1. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You said they "made" him fight Canelo. They can't "make" Floyd do anything and that is in the contract according to Showtime.

    For somebody who claims to not be an idiot, your grasp on the English language is pretty weak. "Making" and "influencing" are two different things.
     
  2. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    you think contracts are cut and dry like that ?:lol:
     
  3. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nah, you're confused, I'm confused, we're all confused. Per ScienceGuru, Showtime is actually running a charity. They don't need to make any money. They'll be fine.
     
  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Contracts are cut and dry like that idiot. That's why it's a "contract." What is written is how it goes. You can choose to alter terms and conditions prior to signing it, but afterward, it requires both parties OK for a change. Unless you can prove some type of contract breech to allow you to get out of it all together.

    Why do you pretend like you actually work for a living? Pretty clear you don't do ****.
     
  5. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well since he isn't explaining it let me take a stab. I think the 1.5 million buy rate figure assumes somewhere in the area of $100 million in sales. Of the $100 million, half is taken by the cable providers, so they are really only working with a $50 million pot. After that, they need to pay the promoter, the other fighter, etc, and Floyd's guarantee. If you're pot is only $50 million, those become very slim margins.
     
  6. Stylez G.

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    It's insane because very few fights reach the 1.5M buy number. So to structure a deal that would need to average that many buys just to break even makes little sense. Maybe that's what they did, but it sounds insane. I have a hard time believing it without some numbers to back it up.
     
  7. KhanPunchHard

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    Here's my un-educated guess about these numbers. At $65 a pop X 1.5 million thats $97.5 million so lets just round this off to $98 since some subscribers actually would order an HD. You deduct half which goes to the network that shows the fight leaves you $49 million. Now I don't know how much Floyd get of that PPV money but the remaining revenue of $17 million (49-32 Floyd's guaranteed money) should be more than enough to cover promotional expenses and the undercard and if you add the live gate's revenue I think Sho will make a little money. But barely so yeah this will be a flop if its under 1.5 million.
     
  8. boxing_master

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    what if one party puts in the contract that it can get out any time ?

    see you don't understand anything go to anther gay orgy or something you know nothing about business unlike you I own and run business dummy!

    I like how you edited it ahahahah
     
  9. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OMG... you clearly don't work. Done.

    What is the point of a contract if one party can cancel it any time they feel like? You don't run a business, stop lying dude! So ****ing obviously you're a lying sack of **** with zero integrity.

    To get out of a contract, there are specific conditions required. Nobody signs a contract with another entity that just allows them to break it whenever they feel like it. That kind of defeats the point of having a "term length" in the contract.

    Not only are you a liar, but you lack common sense.
     
  10. Stylez G.

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    Just because something is written in an article doesn't make it true. The writer of the article doesn't bother to even explain how he got to that number. Let's think about this though. Would it make sense to need to do 1.5M buys just to break even?
     
  11. boxing_master

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    yes its insane if the guys are not mayweather or pacman
     
  12. boxing_master

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    you said both parties have to agree to get out then you edited it:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but it is not written into a contract that a "party can leave the contract whenever they want" like you claimed. That is absolutely ridiculous and defeats the entire purpose of having a "binding contract." Both parties agreeing to alter language later is not the same thing.

    Your grasp on the English language is horrible by the way, which explains some of your asinine responses.
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haha, when you have to go from acting smart to full breakout cursing...


    That's when we all know you've lost all credibility.
     
  15. boxing_master

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    you have been exposed by your lack of business sense countless times.

    and oyea your grasp of business is below par.:rofl