Showtime: Jermell De'Avante Charlo vs. Brian Carlos Castaño & Rolando Romero vs. Anthony Yigit RBR

If Kiwi's opinions were in the minority, then I might see you keep arguing, but, he shares the opinion's of most of the posters on here. YOU are way in the minority you have 2 maybe 3 Floyd/canelo worshippers at best Give it up !!!!!!

 

Shadow must be a glutton for punishment I think. LOL He gets owned & ridiculed repeatedly but still wont STFU LOL

 

Castano outlanded Charlo in BOTH rounds with mostly power punches (as in, "only landed 2 jabs total in both rounds"). You can make the argument that Charlo still did the better work in round 6. I wouldn't but you can, 12/45 for Charlo vs 16/55 for Castano is close enough that if you felt Charlo did superior work you can tip the hat in his direction. But round 5 was the largest margin between punches landed in the whole fight, 20/58 for Castano vs 8(!!!)/36 for Charlo, half of which were jabs. There is no way you can give Charlo round 5. None.

 

I mean, his next prospective opponent is Caleb Plant, so...

 

Here you go relying on punch stat #s. I've seen the punch stat numbers and have concluded that they are very misleading in these rounds. Don't rely on punch stats for scoring rounds, watch the round, look at the punches and judge it that way.

After watching these two rounds, it's very apparent that Round 5 is a much clearer round for Charlo than Round 6 which was more of a toss-up. And I think what happened with Castaño's landed power punches in these rounds is that he was getting credit for a lot of punches that were sort of half blocked / half landed by Charlo.

 

Punch stats aren't everything, sure. That's why I said I can see the argument in round 6. In this particular case, I wouldn't, but I'm not opposed to the idea of someone winning a round in which they got outlanded by only one or two punches. What if you hurt your opponent? What if he barely outlanded you with a last-minute flurry and you were controlling the first 2:30 of the fight? Just two things to consider. But when the margin is 8 to 20 with all 20 being power punches? That DOES start to become "punch stat" territory, because such margins typically imply some sort of damage was done to a fighter, or some skillset was successfully applied that put said fighter on the defensive; similar disparities were seen in rounds 2 (11/6 in favor of Charlo), 3 (11/5 in favor of Castano), and 10 (21/9 in favor of Charlo, as big a margin as round 5).

Half-blocked means half-landed, which means damage was done regardless. He was consistently putting pressure on Charlo, preventing him from landing punches (especially in round 5) and getting the fight where he wanted. Even if he gets only half-credit for his half-landed punches, 10 to 8 still puts round 5 in his favor, especially in light of everything else. Stop it.

 

I had the same reaction to the punch stat numbers as you did. After watching rounds 5 and 6 again, I looked up the punch stats and was shocked at how one-sided the #s were in Round 5. Those numbers indicate Castaño dominated the round. I can assure you he didn't. You need to go back and watch the round, I can tell you haven't re-watched these rounds and you're relying solely on the punch stat numbers.

I think what we have here in Round 5 is that the Punch stat counters were guessing on a lot of the punches, and since Castaño threw 22 more punches he ended up with a lot more counted. A lot of shots in this round were partly blocked and in real-time it's not easy to decide. Please re-watch these rounds, forget about the punch stat #s and just score these rounds straight up. You'll realize that the punch stats are way off for Round 5 and that Charlo definitely deserved to win this round. Round 6 was more of a toss-up, and Round 4 was a definite Castaño round despite the one judge scoring that for Charlo.

 

Time is running out for September so I suspect Canelo will face someone else and fight Plant later this year.

 

Everything.

 

Thats simply not true

Saunders has far better footwork
Smith hits harder
Saunders has a far better ring IQ
Smith has a better jab


I could probably go on but your wrong

 

I think when he fights Canelo you will see I was correct because he is a much tougher competitive fight than either of the Brits which were basically a cakewalk for Canelo. Noticed my mate @CST80 liking your previous comment but then again remember he predicted a Saunders win while I predicted a Canelo stoppage between rounds 8-10. I will go on record now to say of the 3 PBC guys that being Jermall Charlo, David Benaivides and Caleb Plant that Mall though competitive will be easier of the 3 prospective fights. Plant’s quick hands, speed of foot, mobility ring generalship with some pop on his punches is the most difficult stylistically. He is the one who can replicate what Mayweather did best. Benaivides brings genuine power, destructiveness, attitude to this contest. Canelo is better all round but he will be in against a guy who is bigger, stronger and hit harder than him against Benaivides.

 

Simply not true

Saunders works a ring better

Smith has more pop on his punches, Plant has very little

Canelo will laugh them punches off

Granted he has speed, Saunders lost that moving up to 168

But he does not use it to cut the same angles that say Saunders does

Canelo will beat Plant the same way he did the other two

Plant is ok sure but nothing more and fairly fortunate to be champ

 

Plant is not fortunate to be a champion because he has beaten everybody put in front of him handily which is all you have to do.

Saunders is a fat who is undisciplined. Yes he had some boxing ability at domestic level but without any special effects. He is what I call a domestic world champion getting his belt because of the chummy relationship his former promoter had with the WBO.

As for Smith he is a basic straight up and down fighter with no special effects. I don’t like this term weight bully people apply to Smith because it’s not fair as provided a fighter makes weight as per the rules without using drugs or cheating then he can fight at the scheduled weight. Smith for me is a Light heavyweight/ Super Middleweight who got lucky to fight the Super 6 final against an injured compromised George Groves. Groves could not postpone the fight to let his injury fully recuperate because my guy George Groves the Saint at his best is at least twice the fighter Smith is.

Canelo may well beat Plant but it’s not a foregone conclusion in my book not by a long way and it will be one of his hardest fights which he could lose.

Another factor to bear in mind we know Saunders intestinal fortitude was questionable that’s not the same with Plant. We should not overrate our guys just because we are British. We should call it as we see it.

 

Plant sucks.

 

I do call it as i see it

Plants beat everyone presented to him to be champ

Sure, but so did Saunders

You can only beat whats in front of you

Plant beat a fighter thats fairly average to win his current strap

Groves wasn't at his best, most would agree

But as you say Smith beat what was in front of him

This can not just apply to Plant!

Canelo beating Plant is the most foregone conclusion i can think of out of any anticipated fights

Smith has more power and done zilch
Saunders better ring generalship and got beat

Plants got nothing really to trouble him that these guys didnt