SHOWTIME PPV ? WILDER V FURY

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its all new territory for the human experience, we are slowing feeling the echos of the changes in our society. i dont think you can see the differences unless you were born pre 80's, it was a different world that produced different animals.
    as an experiment, start to take notice of how people in their 50's act when meeting you and conversing with you for the first time, as opposed to millenials and younger. watch their eyes, expressions and responses to your words. if you are young, once you take enough samples, you will start to see the differences, if you are old like me, and mentally aware, then you will notice the differences right away.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Well, every generation is different.
    And in my case, i think i fall in between those two experiences. I grew up on rotary dial phones and having to go up to your friends house to even know if they are home.
    Or having to carry a CD player to listen to music.
    But very quickly came the computers and then smart phones.

    I just dont think social media has been as bad as people make it out to be.
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    its not, yet, but it is shifting in a direction that will make us different beings. you have to remember that a large percentage of people in this world are still living in the old world, they are computer illiterate and arent ready to create their own bubble, but in 30 years that bank of knowledge will be gone. everyone will live in a world inhabited only by people and things you allow in your bubble. you dont even have to have any human contact at all to live a full life today, you can work from your computer and have everything you need to survive delivered to your door. the things that tie us together, the shared experiences, will be completely different depending on how your particular bubble is configured. thats why nobody can agree on anything today, cause the truth in my bubble sounds like a lie in yours.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Those bubbles have excised forever now.
    When was there a time where everyone agreed on everything? Or even came close to?

    Don't be so cynical.
     
  5. DoubleJ

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    The good old days. Plus, with Oscar being a draw back then plenty of ladies would be interested in some of the fights. In my college days I had many a fight party turn into an actual party with the DJ starting after the fight card ended. Some of my best memories.

    Fortunately I still have some close friends who live nearby and join me for big fights. But, even with them being close I've still watched a PPV card or two on my own in recent memory.
     
  6. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    I'd love to know Showtime's projections on this. If 1.2 million watched Wilder's last fight, what percentage of those viewers buy this one? How many casuals does this pick up?

    Bottom line is that it will need to get promoted well. PBC will need to air promos during all of their cards and Showtime will need to promote it on CBS and their affiliated networks.

    But, between the mouths on these two and the casuals expectations of a KO one way or the other, it could do OK.
     
  7. 22JM

    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, this is a mismatch, don't know why so many are falling for this fight.
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    thats not true at all. how old are you? cause you speak like youve been witness to these things, but just mistook what you saw. we used to agree on how we felt about corruption in government, on who our national enemies were, the definitions of man and woman, etc... the irony of what i see, is that all those things that were suppose to unite us and increase our knowledge 10 fold, have actually served to isolate us and confuse our understanding.
     
  9. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    It will bomb. There is no way they do a PPV on this.
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I listen and read a lot about history. Especially about society.
    As in it's bad? I think the vast majority still feel that way.
    Enemies change. I dont know really how to comment on that. I think WWII had a lot of influence for a long time. And then the threat of nuclear war.
    Times have changed and with it different fears have arisen.
    Before that we had issues in sexuality.
    True, there is a lot of unfounded social activism that has given birth to the SJW movement, but i still see the benefits of social media outweighing the negatives.

    Millions have changed their lives for the better through knowledge they obtained from social media.
    A great listen is:
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    The negatives too often outshine the positives.
     
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  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    24? no offence, but you dont even know enough about your own generation to even begin to try and compare them to any other. there are so many things that you cant learn from a book, if you could, only one book need be written.
    if you are really interested in learning, and are serious in your pursuit of truth, then write down how you feel about everything you can think of today and put it away. in 20 years take that paper out and be amazed at how little you actually knew and how you wouldnt have recognized the truth even if you had read it today. there are just so many things that dont become real until you experience it yourself, and that only comes from living life, not just being alive for a long time.
     
  12. Saintpat

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    I’m comparing FREE to $60-70 a pop.

    And I predict a very low ‘buy rate’ for the Ademek headliner on the first Matchroom USA on free-month DaysInn and not a big number for free AJ either.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    How does that work? No matter how old i get, i will still be in my generation.
    At what point will i know enough?
    Why can't i compare what i have learned and experienced?
    That's why you read different books. That´s why you make your own opinions. Thats why you converse with others.
    This some "being woke" ****?
    Things are always different when looking back. And what is the truth? That we are changing?
    That is true for everyone! No matter the situation or experience.

    I have lived my life and experienced different things. I have seen complaints shift from subject to subject.
    The world is always changing, and at the moment it's changing for the better.
    I just don't see social media as being the disease that kills us.

    Imo, it's stupid to talk about bubbles as if those are new phenomena. And it's dumb to say that my views hold no merit because i am young.
     
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  14. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Try PPV in New Zealand... :hang
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    your control sample consists of half a decade of adult interaction and study, mine consists of close to 4 decades of conscious study. i have the benefit of having picked the brains of many people old enough to have fought in the first world war, down to children forming their first opinion of the world today.
    it doesnt matter how hard i try and explain some of these things to you now, you will not understand enough for it to matter, i was 24 once also, a smart 24, and i still did not have enough world experience to be firm in my convictions and secure that i was correct in my assessments. and it took a lot of life experience for me to sort all of it out. of course youre going to have that misguided confidence in your own level of understanding that comes with youth, its life that ends up correcting your misconceptions. im sure youve discussed topics with teens that leave you thinking "man, this kid has no idea what hes talking about", well that doesnt stop when you turn 18.