(SI)Career PPV buys- Manny 9.9 million, Floyd 9.6 million

I agree

But u guys are inferring that PAC fans don't pay for all his fights because they know that they will have that oppurtunity again before the year is over.

Which is a fallacy to infer.

It's more likely that if the two fighters were to switch the number of ppv appearances Floyd, based solely on his current numbers, would be much more than 300,000 buys ahead of PAC in 15 ppv vs. pacs 9 ppv

 

well.... I guess im out then:yep........ wlad and Floyd have the same lawyer.... maybe i can fish :hey

 

Go for it, you might work yourself into a percentage.

 

Go look at what they have done since fighting Oscar...Floyd averages 1.705,000 per fight while Manny is at 1,113,000 per fight.

 

Yeah, I see where you're coming from but there are some things you're missing.

For one, the list of fighters available isn't endless and the more often a fighter fights, the less quality he will have to face. Think about Wladimir Klitschko for a second. A poor division, right? But if Wlad fought once a year, his level of opposition would be better than it is now because you don't get the bums watering it down, like Mormeck. He'd face non-stop high level opponents and therefore, his fights would constantly draw more money because they're better bouts.

It's the same with Pacquiao. If there are five 'good' opponents out there but Pacquiao fights ten times, half of his opponents will be 'poor'. If Mayweather fights five times a year against those five good opponents, every one of his PPV's will be an attraction because they're good fights.

That's part of the reason why you'd get a higher average PPV success, because the quality of the fights is much higher on average.

There are also the promotional costs to think about, from both their promoters and HBO. If HBO know Pacquiao is fighting three times a year, are they really going to give those fights the budget that they'd give him if he was fighting once a year? I don't think they are. Neither would Top Rank because it's unsustainable. There's a limit to what fans will spend on PPV's or tickets and for that reason, there's also a limit to what the promoters will spend promoting three fights as opposed to one.

 

So it took Manny 15 fights to do what Floyd did in 9.

 

The 45/45 split with 10 to the winner benefits PAC not Floyd

PAC: asked for 50/50

45/45: PAC loses 5% of what he is asking for and possibly gains 5% more than he is asking for

May: ased for 60/40

45/45: MAY loses 15% of what he is asking for and possibly gains 5% less than he is asking for


This is not a compromise

They are better off doing 50/40 with 10 going to the winner therefore the winner gets exactly what he wanted the purse to be and the loser loses 10% of what he initially wanted

 

1) who gives a ****.

2) Chris Mannix is an idiot.

3) Other then say that these days they draw the same numbers he doesn't even make a convincing arguement that pac actually perfroms the same as Mayweather.

Its a pretty weak ass article with no really strong arguement.

And btw if the fight does 150 mill in buys that means that 75 mil goes to the distributor. So I'd say that 40 mil from Floyd is a pretty fair offer. Especially since its floyd's money that's getting put up for the fight and Floyd taking the risk. 50-50 is bull crap if one side is taking more risk.

 

Your logic here is even more flawed. Because Mayweather says his fights are like the Super Bowl, we should treat it like the Super Bowl? Absolutely not. If we just went by what Mayweather said, there would be no discussion. A big fight PPV and The Super Bowl are entirely different. The appeal of The Super Bowl is the game itself. It's the culmination of an entire season, one game to decide the champion. Obviously it wouldn't be as big if it were more than twice a year. It can't be more than twice a year, because each season can only have one champ.

The dynamics with a fight a very much different. There is no good reason to believe that there would be much, if any, dropoff in demand if Mayweather fought twice a year instead of once a year. There is no precedent for this. Furthermore, his fights against Ortiz and Cotto were 8 months apart. Both did extremely well. Your only counter argument to this is that a fight 6 months apart would draw much less demand than a fight 8 months apart. That obviously makes little sense.

 

To solve that problem u can look at common opponents and Floyd will come out on top still.

they have equal oppurtunities to fight any fighter out there and even if u take mayweathers fight against the not so popular victor Ortiz and put it against pacs fight against the highest marquee name he has fought (odlh or cotto) Mayweather still has better numbers with a lesser dance partner

Up until last week may vs Ortiz was the second highest grossing non heavyweight ppv.. Mayweather holds the top three spots and holds the highest guarranteed purse in the history of the sport

No matter how u slice it, or for what reason mayweather is the bigger draw

 

Mayweather headlined 9 PPV events.

Pacquiao headlined 15 PPV events.

 

:good

 

That is speculation. Truth is you don't know how much he would have made but it would have definetly been more not less.

Mayweather does not fight twice a year because of taxes.

 

Thats the risk you take for being your own boss. Doesn't mean he deserves an extra percentage on that basis

 

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