(SI)Career PPV buys- Manny 9.9 million, Floyd 9.6 million

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  1. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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  2. JASPER

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    over the last 3 years I have said that they should take 50-50 and with all of the corruption in boxing there is no way in hell either fighter should agree to winner take the larger share (Ie 45-45 with the winner taking an extra 10% . . . this is plain ******ed to be honest). Also with the Cotto fight it is crystal clear that PBF is the bigger draw and should get the larger share.

    People have some strange theories out there like using the law of diminishing return. This does not applicable in this case. This would suggest that the more one fights the more it will impact his ability to draw a PPV crowd. However, we have to look at the industry as a whole and not just one fighter. If we do that it is similar to the UFC which has a PPV every month but the "bigger fights" with the more popular fighters draw the most viewers. Manny would have to fight at almost a monthly basis for that to have any impact if any at all (there is diminishing returns because the share of a persons money that they are willing to spend on a Manny fight may run out if he fought more often.

    Another theory was just count the last 3 years. however, with manny fighting more often than PBF you run into he same problem with this type of analysis.

    the only far way to do compare the two is with head to head with common opponents. Some might say that this is no far because manny fought them after they already to PBF and therefore less of a draw, the same would be true for cotto. Also, i might actually help manny drawing power because people want to compare how Manny does against the same foe as PBF.

    if we use this system then it is clear (I think thecatinthehat has posted the numbers) that PBF, as I stated earlier, is the bigger draw.

    This leads us to one other point, if Arum would have agreed to OSDT 3 years ago there would have been a fight already and it would have been at 50-50%
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

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    1.066M > 660K

    Pacquiao needs to take the 40 million.

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  4. FinalBELL

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    I did not, and still do not agree with DLH making more money in that scenario either. This is a prime example of what is wrong with the sport. There is no reason to have a ranking system in each division if we dont use it. Boxing is slowly becoming an event, not a sport. It saddens me to say it, but boxing and the powers within need to make some serious changes. The two best fighters in the sport, the fight that everyone has been demanding is not happening because why? Its too complicated to even explain to the casual fan why. Pathedic.
     
  5. Hands of Iron

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    Floyd has the highest per Event average in PPV history. Only he and Tyson have averaged over 1M.
     
  6. FinalBELL

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    Once Manny Pac fights Bradley and PPV numbers come in for that it will give Floyd that much more leverage. Since Pac is not fighting a huge name on Cinco De Mayo this fight will do less numbers. Floyd will demand even more or Pac will have to concede. We all know Arum never will, like I said the whole PPV thing is pretty pathetic.
     
  7. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    according to a source, Pacquiao's November win over Juan Manuel Marquez did 1.25 million.


    at least we got the official numbers.
     
  8. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just to easy.
    **** Arum he is a waste of skin.
     
  9. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You think Floyd didn't have the opportunities? Why is that? Is it that he didn't have the opportunities or that he chose to be a less active fighter? I don't think Floyd would be turned down if he decided to fight more frequently.
     
  10. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch you guys have no idea what can and can not be withheld when it comes to this topic.
     
  11. Nay_Sayer

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    Question for the *******s to consider; when was the last time your hero did 2mil+ PPVs?

    Pacquiao needs to take the $40 mil.

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  12. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so manny/jmm 3 did 1.4mill?
     
  13. Jack

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    It's true what you're saying, in that the SuperBowl is different to a boxing match, but the way the fights are sold to fans is similar.

    Mayweather is more of an attraction because we rarely see him in the ring. That's just a simple fact and, like I said earlier, if Mayweather could be more regular and continue earning the same average, he would do so. He knows that this isn't the case.

    In any form of the TV industry, the more something is seen, the less valuable it is. Mayweather's fights are no different. You can't argue that 5 fights a year would make a difference but then say 2 fights a year would mean nothing. It clearly would. Mayweather would still be a draw, but not as much of one.
     
  14. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Jack, you're not thinking here. If Mayweather fought 5 times a year, the promotion would be way less than his fights now. If he fought twice a year, the promotion would be the same. Furthermore, his fights against Marquez and Mosely were within a year of eachother. Ditto for his fights with Ortiz and Cotto. All 4 fights did really well. There is nothing to suggest fighting twice a year would negatively effect the demand for Mayweather fights. Everything has a point of diminishing returns. Two fights is not that point. The promotion ilwould be the same for both fights and Mayweather has fought twice in a year with great PPV results.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    :lol: That has NOTHING to do with my post you quoted simple Jack.