(SI)Career PPV buys- Manny 9.9 million, Floyd 9.6 million

Thats all just opinion. all we no are facts. May outsells manny and even tho the ts tried to flip it, he chopped his own dick off.

 

That average INCLUDED the DLH fighty brainiac... atsch

 

Floyd fought De La Hoya and Hatton within a 7 month period. Average here is 1,660,000.
Floyd fought Marquez and Mosley within a 8 month period. Average here is 1,252,500
Floyd fought Ortiz and Cotto within a 8 month period. Average here is 1,375,000

Some of you are trying to use a calendar year as some sort "mark." Boxing is not done by a calendar year. There are no seasons.

 

It doesn't matter...if you go by common opponents (so we can take out what you *******s are saying is bias to start from the Oscar fight) Floyd still outdoes Manny by 245,000 buys.

It's stupid to not include the Oscar fight though. I'll give it to you so you don't get your panties in a wad...but I can just as easily say "well we can't use the Marquez fights because Manny had 7 years and 2 fights to build that fight, and Mayweather only had 5 months to build his fight with Marquez."
But instead of bitching and complaining about it, I use those numbers even though they bump Pac's numbers up and bring Floyd's down.

 

I'd say when all is said, and done, Floyd is generating about 10% more per fight on average.

45/55 - DONE.

 

Hard to argue with this kind of logic.

 

I can respect that to an extent.:good

Do you like Richard's idea of having the accounting firm come in and review there fights since 2007? I like it alot. I think he called Arum on his bluff.

I think 60/40 is more like it, based on the numbers.

 

I know what you're getting at but I think you're wrong.

In all forms of entertainment, whether sport or not, the success of a show is largely dependent on how often it comes around. The less often we see an entertainer or athlete, the more valuable their product becomes.

Just ask yourself this though. If Mayweather could make as much money fighting twice a year as once a year, why doesn't he? Do you really think he's willing to throw away tens of millions and if so, why?

 

Your trying to use a calendar year as some sort of "mark."

He fought Oscar and Hatton within an 7 month period. 1,660,000 average.

He fought Marquez and Mosley within an 8 month period. 1,252,500 average.

He fought Ortiz and Cotto within an 8 month period. 1,375,000 average.

 

But Jack, he's fought twice within a year with great success. That right there invalidates your theory. You're arguing the point of diminishing returns. However, returns dont diminish with every successive sell. There's a a certain point where that happens. Floyd has already proven two fights isn't that point.

As far as why he hasn't fought as often, I'll give you two possibilities. One was that he was injured. Another, that goes along with that, is that he may have lacked the motivation to give 100% in training. People think Floyd is motivated by money. I don't think so. I think his ego and his legacy drives him. He already has a ton of money. His legacy is not complet though. He really values his undefeated record. He's not about to let someone take it from him unfairly. That's why he's insisting on drug testing, that's why he refused to drain himself at all against Marquez, and that may be why he hasn't fought as often. Much of his success is do to his preparation. If he's not motivated in camp, that will negatively effect him in the fight. He's not the type that's going to go into a fight at less than his best at this stage in his career.

 

No but it means that for him it doesn't make sense for him to take that risk unless he's appropriately compensated. Thats the advantage of being your own boss. Is you only have to move when it makes sense for you. I don't like this whole who desreves what thing. And I wish the two guys would just get in the ring. But I can see where floyd is coming from. And I can't see where Chris Mannix is coming from. Cause he really doesn't back up anything he says.

 

I think they should do what Richard said...After the Bradley Pacquiao fight is done, assuming Manny wins, they should send all the documents to a 3rd party accounting firm, and they can figure out the split, based on both fighters past numbers.:good

 

Further more, there should be a gradual reduction in returns. So in each calendar year the first ppv event should have higher numbers than the following one. Ignoring any other economic factors we have:

Example 1.
Pacquaio vs Mosley (2011-05-07) 1,300,000 buys
Pacquiao vs Marquez (2011-11-12) 1,410,000 buys

Example 2.
Pacquiao vs Clottey (2010-03-13) 700,000 buys
Pacquiao vs Margarito (2010-11-13) 1,150,000 buys

Example 3.
Pacquiao vs Hatton (2009-05-02) 850,000 buys
Pacquiao vs Cotto (2009-11-14) 1,250,000 buys

So the law of diminishing returns doesn't really apply here. A better example of the law would be as follows:

There is a pond with 100 fish in it. Every day you catch 10% of the fish. So on day one you catch 10 fish, leaving 90 fish. On day 2 you catch 9 fish, leaving 81. On day 3 you catch 8 fish, etc. The number of fish is decreasing by 10% daily (diminishing returns).

Floyd is simply the better draw here, and the numbers support it (atleast in the U.S.). With common opponents sells more ppv's. This isn't a *******/***** thing. Its just factual.

 

:deal

Nice post. :good

 

in the article it said manny/jmm 3 did 1.25 mill and manny/shane did 1.2 mill