sick of all the mayweather haters

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by derrick rose, Feb 13, 2008.


  1. derrick rose

    derrick rose Member Full Member

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    and thats my point i'm talking real defense not moving out the way of punches you can't even hit floyd when he's in the corner on the ropes thats defense
     
  2. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    but floyd wasn't past it...
     
  3. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    dnt get me wrong pbf is a great fighter best one in the world now but i think hes been matched for qualitys by some other unbeleieable fighters
     
  4. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    but thats not having a great defense. That's having a dominant offense. And it caught up with him when his reflexes declined due to old age. His right-hand was way off the mark defending his chin when Tarver busted his face...it's a technical thing.

    When Floyd slows down, he's going to be much better defended than Roy was. Period. He's one of the best technically sound defenders of this generation.
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Lets see Floyd fight when he is shot or close to kid then you can bring up those fights when compairing :good

    Point is punch stats are bull a great deal of the time. Hatton landed more than they said it did.

    The Punch Stats:
    Castillo Mayweather
    203 Landed 157
    506 Thrown 448
    40% Percentage 35%
    Power Punching Stats:
    Castillo Mayweather
    173 Landed 66
    377 Thrown 151
    46% Percentage 44%

    109 more power punch's mate that is a shitting all over if you go by the stats:good ​
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Defense is simply avoiding getting hit; whether it is blocking a punch, parrying a punch, slipping a punch, rolling with a punch, ducking under a punch, or using your feet to move out of range.

    Floyd has a more textbook defense than Roy did, although Floyd's defense is not textbook either. Both Roy and Floyd rely on reflexes and speed to evade punches, but Roy did so to a greater extent. This leads me to believe Floyd would get hit less once his reflexes and speed erode.
     
  7. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Great defense is not getting hit mate, technical sence my ass. Also **** you name calling will get you nowhere

    :smoke
     
  8. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    How past it was he against Oscar? 31 yrs old? Get outta here, thats how old Floyd is now.

    How past it was RJJ vs. Del Valle when he got dropped? 29. Why'd he get dropped? Again, a loose guard. Not technically sound.

    And Glen Johnson all about the same age as Roy when both KO'd him. He was fighting other grandparents, it's not like some young lion ripped right through him...and it's not like he took a beating his whole career. He just had a defense dependent on reflexes and speed, not technical boxing technique.
     
  9. derrick rose

    derrick rose Member Full Member

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    i get you but damn you couldn't hit floyd in a jail cell he rolls so good

    roy would get k'od in close quarters

    the only 1 close to his style is james toney
    i suprised no 1 mentioned him
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    That's a good comparison

    Floyd has a very similar defense to James Toney, but has better foot speed and movement.
     
  11. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Floyd is a better defensive technician than Roy ever was. Period. That's my argument, and you haven't even tried to argue against it. Cus' you're ignorant to your man-crush. I'm not even a Floyd fan. I can appreciate him, i have issues with Floyd...yes, but in terms of whose a better defensive technicial Roy or Floyd? Floyd, all day everyday.
     
  12. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Technically defensivly Floyd is much better.

    In practice prime Roy was as difficult to hit if not more.
     
  13. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    We're talking accuracy, and defense. It's +5% of total punches. Mate? I'm not euro-trash so please speak with respect. :good
     
  14. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    You started with the abuse. Im being nice :hey

    A jab doesnt mean as much as a power shot. :good
     
  15. rr94

    rr94 Belt Holder Full Member

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    We're in agreement there.:good